Avatar: The Last Revisions

[ZephyrosOmega]

Avatar: The Last Airbender is probably one of the greatest shows of all time. So... Why the heck are our pages for it so... for lack of a better word, lackluster?

I mean, don't get me wrong, they're not bad by any means, but they certainly have a lot of key missing abilities, and frankly, could be way higher-tiered. I'm going to go over every type of bending and the respective abilities that they should have, making a nice Copy/Paste for most benders. Just remember to specify which bending types each character uses!

All Bending Types: Chi Manipulation (Bending is powered by focusing one's chi in order to manipulate the elements), Non-Physical Interaction (Benders have shown that they can affect and damage spirits)

Waterbending: Water Manipulation (Waterbending allows for the manipulation of water), Steam Manipulation (Waterbenders can manipulate water in steam form), Ice Manipulation (Waterbenders can also manipulate Ice to form constructs and projectiles), limited Transmutation (Waterbending can transform water into any state of matter), Empowerment (Under the light of the moon, especially during a full moon, waterbending grows more powerful), Blood Manipulation and Body Puppetry (Sufficiently powerful waterbenders can manipulate the blood in others, controlling them like puppets), Healing (Waterbending can be used to heal wounds), limited Weather Manipulation (Falling rain and clouds have both shown that they can be bent), Plant Manipulation (Through controlling the water in plants, a waterbender can manipulate them)

Earthbending: Earth Manipulation (Earthbending allows for the manipulation of earth), Telekinesis and Platform Creation (Skilled earthbenders can levitate rocks to use as platforms), Transmutation (Earthbenders can change earth's state of matter at will), Sand Manipulation (Earthbending can manipulate sand and dust), Magma Manipulation (Through transmutation, earthbenders can turn solid rock into magma and bend it to their will), Metal Manipulation (Through manipulating earthly impurities in metal, earthbenders can shape it to their will), Mud Manipulation (Earthbenders can control mud through manipulating the earth inside it), Vibration Manipulation (Powerful earthbenders can cause small earthquakes), Enhanced Senses (The Seismic Sense allows a user to sense vibrations in the earth and see things even their eyes can't track), Crystal Manipulation (Earthbending can manipulate gemstones and crystals to form armor and constructs)

Firebending: Fire Manipulation (Firebending allows for the generation and manipulation of fire), Pseudo-Flight (Firebenders can propel themselves with jets of flame), Breath Attack (Many firebenders can breathe fire like a dragon, as dragons were the first firebenders), Heat Manipulation (Skilled firebenders can emit and redirect heat), Empowerment (Opposite to waterbenders, firebenders receive power from the sun, heat, and Sozin's Comet), Explosion Manipulation (Firebenders can cause explosions, and certain gifted firebenders can cause them spontaneously through combustion bending), Clairvoyance (Firebenders can use bending to read energy and interpret chi), Electricity Manipulation (The most skilled firebenders can manipulate lightning), limited Absorption (Lightning benders can absorb and redirect lightning through their bodies)

As an aside, Lightning Bending might constitute for Durability Negation, considering that Azula used it to one-shot Aang while he was in the Avatar State.

Airbending: Air Manipulation (Airbending allows for the manipulation of air), Breath Attack (Airbenders can form air into attacks from their breath), Forcefield Creation (Airbenders can create shields made of air), Flight (Airbenders can fly by propelling themselves with air, and more experienced benders can fly unimpeded), Weather Manipulation (Airbenders can create tornadoes to attack and manipulate clouds), Enhanced Senses (Airbenders, thanks to their connection with the air, can perceive subtle shifts and vibrations in the air), Astral Projection (Airbenders are naturally adept at projecting their spirits)

Energybending: Energy Manipulation (Energybending is the manipulation and redirection of energy, and skilled energybenders can use it to fire beams of energy), Astral Projection (Korra created a construct of herself to battle Unalaq), Power Bestowal (Lion Turtles could use this to bestow bending upon those without it), Light Manipulation (Jinora could generate bright light), Sealing (Aang was able to permanently remove Ozai's bending abilities), Soul Manipulation (Energybending can manipulate spiritual energy and interact with spirits), Dimensional Travel (Korra was able to travel from the spirit world to the physical world), Purification (Korra used this to defeat Vaatu)

Avatar Powers: Immortality (Type 4; Avatars will reincarnate upon their death, though this process can take years and is not combat applicable), Empowerment (Avatars can gain power by tapping into their past selves), Statistics Amplification (An avatar becomes much stronger by entering the Avatar State), Resistance to Blood Manipulation (Aang was able to break out of the hold that Yakome put on him by entering the Avatar State)


I actually have some AP upgrades to bring up, but that's for another thread.

 

[Js250476]

This seems good to me glad Avatars getting some respect.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

When have benders been able to hit legitimate spirits with their bending?. Iirc Aang couldn't even touch the panda spirit while it was attacking that village.

I haven't watched Legend of Korra though. However I'd like to see actually evidence for most of these plus, we can't just add this stuff to most benders page as not all benders of the same element are capable of doing the same thing. For instance, Metal Manipulation for earth benders. Not all earth benders can just manipulate metal, even master earth benders didn't think it possible so we can't just add metal manipulation to each earth benders page regardless if they are masters, unless they actually show metal bending. Just because they have the ability to metal bend, doesn't mean they know how to.

There are several more things you are suggesting that I don't think should apply to even master benders of specific elements unless there is legitimate proof. Again though, I haven't watched Korra so if something happened in that show I can't speak on. I will say though that majority of the stuff on here is simple enough.

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

I'd say limited transmutation for earthbenders, they can't transmute everything, although I'd still be hesitant to call this transmutation as opposed to simple earth manipulation. As for Firebenders I dont think Clairvoyance is the right ability to use here Extrasensory Perception seems better.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

When have benders been able to hit legitimate spirits with their bending?. Iirc Aang couldn't even touch the panda spirit while it was attacking that village.
I haven't watched Legend of Korra though. However I'd like to see actually evidence for most of these plus, we can't just add this stuff to most benders page as not all benders of the same element are capable of doing the same thing. For instance, Metal Manipulation for earth benders. Not all earth benders can just manipulate metal, even master earth benders didn't think it possible so we can't just add metal manipulation to each earth benders page regardless if they are masters, unless they actually show metal bending. Just because they have the ability to metal bend, doesn't mean they know how to.

There are several more things you are suggesting that I don't think should apply to even master benders of specific elements unless there is legitimate proof. Again though, I haven't watched Korra so if something happened in that show I can't speak on. I will say though that majority of the stuff on here is simple enough.

Fodder waterbenders could fight spirits in Legend of Korra and blow them up.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Obviously we can't add every thing to every bender's page. This is more of a general list of everything that each bending art can perform. We'd have to look at each bender on a case-by-case basis.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Seems odd that they can do that considering when Aang went into the spirit world in the water temple, Katara couldn't even interact or see his spirit self. Are you sure these spirits didn't become tangible or something allowed them to touch them?, Seem like a contradiction but if it happened multiple times I guess it's ok.

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

As in adding this to the verse page? That should be fine.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Obviously we can't add every thing to every bender's page. This is more of a general list of everything that each bending art can perform. We'd have to look at each bender on a case-by-case basis.

I never said add it to everyone's page, You are the one that said we'd copy and paste it to most benders pages which is what I was replying to.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

"Just remember to specify which bending types each character uses!"

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Wan, the original Avatar was able to distract Raava, which could be interpreted as non-physical interaction. But I'm unsure about fodder benders having it. It sounds like only certain spirits are intangible or that the merging of the worlds in Korra might have had some effect one way or the other. But most of these look good to add to the verse page.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Wan, the original Avatar was able to distract Raava, which could be interpreted as non-physical interaction. But I'm unsure about fodder benders having it. It sounds like only certain spirits are intangible or that the merging of the worlds in Korra might have had some effect one way or the other. But most of these look good to add to the verse page.

Maybe make a page for bending specifically? Like stands and phenomena intervention?

 

[LordGriffin1000]

"Just remember to specify which bending types each character uses!"

I already know some benders have different types. You however generalized several abilities as if majority of benders can do them in your descriptions of the abilities.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

"Just remember to specify which bending types each character uses!"

I already know some benders have different types. You however generalized several abilities as if majority of benders can do them in your descriptions of the abilities.

That certainly wasn't my intention.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

I know, It's how I first interpretated it, so that's my fault and I apologise.

Anyway, I'll wait to see what others think of the additions.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

@ZephyrosOmega, that sounds redundant as Bending is a common ability in fiction specifically. Fire Manipulation or Pyrokinesis are the exact same thing as fire bending; which we already have a page for. Adding the list of examples to the power of the verse page is fine though.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

@ZephyrosOmega, that sounds redundant as Bending is a common ability in fiction specifically. Fire Manipulation or Pyrokinesis are the exact same thing as fire bending; which we already have a page for. Adding the list of examples to the power of the verse page is fine though.

Sounds good to me. What about individual character profiles? As griffin said, not every bender has the same applications. For example, Aang himself never displayed lavabending, but past avatars have shown it and he should have it in avatar state.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

The various characters who demonstrated said abilities can have it. And I know Roku demonstrated lava bending, but I did here Korra was the first Avatar to perform Metal Bending. I also noticed Avatar State Aang can resist Bloodbending.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

The various characters who demonstrated said abilities can have it. And I know Roku demonstrated lava bending, but I did here Korra was the first Avatar to perform Metal Bending. I also noticed Avatar State Aang can resist Bloodbending.

Korra was the first metalbending avatar, yes. Kyoshi lavabended as well, if I'm remembering her flashback correctly.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

The characters' pages do seem pretty lackluster. I think that giving them bending as a notable technique and then adding the others as sub-techniques. Especially for avatars.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I know Dark649 said something about the profiles requiring some polishing a while back. But I don't think we got around to it due to workload.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Well, he's not wrong. They could use some work.

 

[TriforcePower1]

As long as we give benders only the abilities they've shown to have and not all of the OP, it's fine for me, at least The Last Airbender points as I still haven't seen Legend of Korra.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Crystal Manipulation should be added to Earthbending. Aang made crystal armor in that cave, and the Dai Li "captured" Iroh in crystal. Seems like a common ability.

 

[KobsterHope07]

BUMP

 

[Antvasima]

I agree with Medeus.