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Those with strong enough willpower can resist corruption. Pretty sure Corruption won't work on Garou since he has egregious willpower on steroids.
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Atrocitus vs Garou
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Im pretty sure that Atrocitus being able to corrupt the Spectre is much higher than anything Garou has resisted. Not to mention, Lanterns can resist the effect of the Red Lantern light, and Atrocitus can still corrupt them even when they actively try to resist him.
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Garou pretty much has double resistance due to crack willpower which basically has it's own page and resistance to mind corruption.
It's not layered so yeah.
It's not layered so yeah.
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Well Garou's Reactive Evolution covers both hax and hax resistances and it only worked on Spectre for a short amount of time, so even given the benefit of the doubt, this wouldn't really be a wincon or Garou.
His instinctive action also works while he's asleep, so his body would likely continue to move on its own.
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I don't agree with Garou being able to resist Corruption that can affect beings who are at least 2-C and possibly much higher. Not to mention Hal can resist mind hax from Martian Manhunter who's like probably one of the most broken telepaths in comics and can't resist the Red Lantern. And scaling his corruption to MMH's telepathy isn't just like some BS I'm trying to pull. The Red Lantern's abilities were able to nullify his telepathy before.
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Using this argument when Hal hordan is "MISTER WILLPOWER INCARNATE THAT BEATS THE GOD OF WILLPOWER" does not work
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Yeah I’m not really buying Garou resisting corruption with other characters having layer corruption resistance falling prey to it.
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Guy Gardner
Kyle Rayner
Hal Jordan
Super Girl
Super Boy Prime
Spectre
All have superhuman willpower and the Red Light corrupted all of them.
Kyle Rayner
Hal Jordan
Super Girl
Super Boy Prime
Spectre
All have superhuman willpower and the Red Light corrupted all of them.
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Basically this is a who does their move first?
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I don't think it's a stomp. Garou has win-cons, but Atrocitus will more than likely use his stronger hax first while Garou won't.
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You can't scale the potency of corruption hax based on the tiering of the person it can affect.
You can't scale the potency of corruption hax based on it affecting someone with supernatural willpower if that supernatural willpower has not already shown the ability to resist mind corruption.
You can't scale scale the potency of corruption hax based on it affecting someone with various mind hax resistances if they have not shown resistance to mind corruption specifically. Telepathy ≠ Corruption.
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Hal Hordan literally has more willpower than the god that supplies willpower to the whole universe (or multiverse?) and his companion, he is literally the primary example of nullifying mind control, corruption and more hax with his willpower
Atrocitus still can corrupt him and others with similar feats
Still, when I went to Hal hordan profile he has no resistance to corruption so I would let the DC defenders to do his job, my knowledge of the green lanterns is limited, I found them extremely boring, and with the DC profiles being in the state they are I can perfecly supposed something is missing
Edit: And Kyle Rainer who is even better than Hal Hordan has no resistance to anything? OK, logic
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The point I'm making is that he could have all the willpower in the world. If Hal or his verse's willpower in general doesn't have feats of resisting mind corruption (not telepathy, not memory manipulation, not mind control), you can't willpower scale him compared to Garou because they fundamentally work differently.
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The problem presented is that you're arguing will be able to resist it through sheer willpower, which people with better willpower feats can't manage to do. Kyle was only able to resist it briefly when he tried resisting its effects, and he runs circles around Garou in willpower. The go-to move for every Lantern is outwill power something and that doesn't work here. Also, if we really want to get into the specifics, Garou resists Mind Corruption while the Red Ring corrupts your soul and physical body down to the celluar level (which are both things Lantern's can resist) It corrupted The Spectre, who's a spiritual being without a real physical body.
Even more damming to the argument that he can outwillpower the Red Ring is that Guy Gardner's ring was passively losing willpower just by being near the Red Light and it's been stated that the only emotion that can nullify a Red Lantern's rage is Hope, not will. It just blatantly doesn't work against the Red Ring.
Even more damming to the argument that he can outwillpower the Red Ring is that Guy Gardner's ring was passively losing willpower just by being near the Red Light and it's been stated that the only emotion that can nullify a Red Lantern's rage is Hope, not will. It just blatantly doesn't work against the Red Ring.
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That's an outdated version of the ability. Garou's is also soul and physical to a cellular level
One-Punch Man: Orochi and Psykos-Orochi Changes
Orochi and Psykos-Orochi use unofficial scanslations for their absorption. The officials are more accurate, as they mention soul/spirit, just like the raws. What this changes: Grants Orochi Soul Deconstruction through Absorption Grants Psykos-Orochi Absorption (Biological, Soul, & Energy)...
The thing is that I'm not arguing that Garou is outwillpowering the ability. His willpower grants him a flatout hax resistance. He's not just trying to endure, willpower in One-Punch Man grants abilities, with this being one of them. None of the people you mentioned have this or something similar. What you're arguing for doesn't really affect whether Garou can resist or not.
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That doesn't help here. This just says that Garou resists soul absorption and mind corruption. Garou's soul hax resistance would still be literally nowhere close to the DC characters that the Ring can affect. If it can corrupt a being with abstract existence and incorporeality, then I don't think Garou can resist it.
You don't understand what I'm saying. The Red Ring suppresses willpower. Once you put the Ring on, all you can feel is Rage. Most Red Lanterns are legit, so full of rage once they put the ring on that they're beyond reasoning with and just follow Atrocitus out of instinct. If the Ring can suppress the will of Hal Jordan, then why wouldn't it suppress the will of Garou?
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Just like suppressing Garou's willpower won't automatically negate the heat or sleep resistance he has as a byproduct of having OPM Supernatural Willpower, suppressing Garou's willpower won't negate his resistance to corruption. That's what I'm trying to explain to you.
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He won't have the supernatural willpower in the first place. If it can suppress Hal Jordan's willpower while he was actively trying to resist it, then Garou's supernatural willpower wouldn't stand a chance against anything even remotely close to that level. Hal Jordan straight up has like multiversal willpower and resist's having his willpower ****** with. Garou doesn't have any willpower feats that could stand up to something that can overpower his will.
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Again, draining Garou's willpower doesn't stop the resistances in his body. Even while asleep and not actively resisting anything, he was avoiding falling under the commands of Do-S' mind control because he already has those abilities granted.
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Hal's will works on a similar level and you never proved that Garou could resist corruption on Artocitus's level. The only thing provided is that Garou can resist Mind Corruption not corruption that works on a spiritual, biological, and abstract level. Even on beings that much higher resistance of soul, mind, biological manip than what Garou scales to.
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