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Athena VS Othinus
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I vote Othinus because of Gungnir
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Not really. Athena can also manipulate probability through this Item of hers:
https://jessicarita.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/bc3a1culo_de_atena_lost_canvas.jpg
This is Athena's Sacred Staff, Niké. Now, Niké is the name of the Greek Goddess of Victory, and that is no coincidence, for this staff is the Goddess herself, albeit in an objectified form. Essencially, the Goddess of Victory, at the end of the Era of Myth, allied herself with Athena and converted all of her body, Cosmos and Soul into one concentrated form, turning herself into a staff that Athena wields in battle. With it, not only is Athena's power vastly higher, enabling her to pierce Hades's surplice, but also manipulates probability and fate so that Athena's chances of winning shall always be higher than it logically should. This is why Athena's Saints can perform so many "Miracles", cause they have Niké on their side.
https://jessicarita.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/bc3a1culo_de_atena_lost_canvas.jpg
This is Athena's Sacred Staff, Niké. Now, Niké is the name of the Greek Goddess of Victory, and that is no coincidence, for this staff is the Goddess herself, albeit in an objectified form. Essencially, the Goddess of Victory, at the end of the Era of Myth, allied herself with Athena and converted all of her body, Cosmos and Soul into one concentrated form, turning herself into a staff that Athena wields in battle. With it, not only is Athena's power vastly higher, enabling her to pierce Hades's surplice, but also manipulates probability and fate so that Athena's chances of winning shall always be higher than it logically should. This is why Athena's Saints can perform so many "Miracles", cause they have Niké on their side.
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is there something stopping Othinus from just reality warping her out of existance? or stopping time and defeating that way?
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Not to mention, Athena having Universal+ Attack Potency and Durability with her God Cloth (Most likely higher with the Aegis, as it endured blows from Hades's sword). Athena also has speeds that are at the very least Sextillions of Times FTL, and Athena's Divine Light can attack one's soul. For instance, a weakened Aegis emmited a light that ripped apart the evil from Saga's soul, which is implied to be Hades, and in Lost Canvas she and Tenma (Himself a Demi-Primordial) sacrificed their lives to generate a light that left Hades incapacitated for hundreds of years.
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Can she do those things faster than Athena can attack? That's the question I ask you.LordAizenSama said:
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her speed is unknown so i can't tell you.
theoretically it could go upto immeasurable going by the nature of her power, but she never showed anything like that so..
theoretically it could go upto immeasurable going by the nature of her power, but she never showed anything like that so..
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Reality warping >>>>>> attack potency as RW destroys laws of logic itself. Does Athena have reality warping resistance? Otherwise she's not winning this fight
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not to mention Othinus can just phase through stuff iirc
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The speed Athena and Hades most likely fight at is insane, consider this:
Seiya, prior to the Seventh Sense was Hypersonic+, or perhaps High Hypersonic+ (Some calcs put him at about Mach 30 or so). Then, his speeds goes to Relativistic at the start of the 12 Houses Arc, to Lightspeed in the end of the same Arc, to FTL in the Hades Sanctuary Arc. That's a boost of speed in the hundreds of thousands of times. At the same time, we have peak Gold Saints at FTL+, and then the Underworld Judges are MFTL, with the 8th Sense Users at Low MFTL+ Speeds. When the Bronze Saints, proteced with Athena's blood, reach the peak of the 8th Sense, their Cosmos reach the Quadrillions - Quintillions xSoL. Then Thanatos effortlesly blitzes them.... Who's in turn blitzed by God Cloth Seiya, who's in turn far slower than Full Power Athena and Hades... So you can only imagine.
Seiya, prior to the Seventh Sense was Hypersonic+, or perhaps High Hypersonic+ (Some calcs put him at about Mach 30 or so). Then, his speeds goes to Relativistic at the start of the 12 Houses Arc, to Lightspeed in the end of the same Arc, to FTL in the Hades Sanctuary Arc. That's a boost of speed in the hundreds of thousands of times. At the same time, we have peak Gold Saints at FTL+, and then the Underworld Judges are MFTL, with the 8th Sense Users at Low MFTL+ Speeds. When the Bronze Saints, proteced with Athena's blood, reach the peak of the 8th Sense, their Cosmos reach the Quadrillions - Quintillions xSoL. Then Thanatos effortlesly blitzes them.... Who's in turn blitzed by God Cloth Seiya, who's in turn far slower than Full Power Athena and Hades... So you can only imagine.
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^^Just saying, reality warping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any stats like AP, durability or speed. Reality warpers break physics, conceptuality, causaility and logic. So stats are not much of a factor here. Wally west speed is 10^42 FTL and I doubt he could beat Othinus
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After reading more of Othinus's powers, my stance is more on the inconclusive side. Athena can't handle that level of reality warping nor can she handle that level of probability manipulation, but I sincerely doub Othinus can keep up with her speeds. Even if she can alter it with her reality warping, can she really do said reality warping before Athena moves?
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Hmmm...
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Speed and stats are completely irrelevant in front of reality warping. Reality warpers can remove concept of speed itself. Athena is fast but she's nothing compared to the likes of Wally West in speed. Speed can't beat reality warping.Matthew Schroeder said:
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Athena fought the Titans who are all Reality warpers for 10 years btw.
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^on the level of Othinus?
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Above it from what I can tell.
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Nope the Titans were defeated by the Olympians.ZERO7772 said:
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I don't think they are above it.... And Athena wasn' even born when Zeus, Hades, Poseidon, Hera, Demeter and Hestia fought the Titans.
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reality warping has it's level as well, you have garbage like gremmy while Othinus is a very powerful reality warperCHILLVIBEZZ said:
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Not if the Olympian Gods have the Kamui. And even without Kamui, Zeus, Hades and Poseidon (Apollo too, probably) are above them.ZERO7772 said:
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how could they possibly be above it...
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Zeus, Hades and Poseidon have control of the Great Will, which is "Absolute Power" that allows them to manipulate reality and create power from "nothingness", while the Titans have the Dunamis, which is basically the same thing.
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Well damn I forgot Zeus left for the heavens around the same time she was born...Matthew Schroeder said:
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She's a universal scale reality warper while they were also with seals and depleted power.LordAizenSama said:
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so, is there a reason why she doesn't get lulwarped out of reality by these titans than?
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She never fought them either way apparently so it's not relevant.Mistook her for someone else.LordAizenSama said:
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Yes she is.ZERO7772 said:
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Yes she is weaker than them.ZERO7772 said:
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Also what happened to Othinus I thought she was MFTL before?
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i cant remember, I don't think she has any notable speed feats from memory, realistically she should be as fast as she wants to be though.
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The only Olympians shown so far are Hades ,Artemis and Athena.Apollo has one appearance and it's non canon.
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Oh yeah and Poseidon forgot about him.
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We also saw Aphrodite in the Saint Seiya Online MMORPG, which was supervised by Kurumada and is half-canon, but she's featless there.
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Possibly all with the exception of Zeus, who's described as being All-Mighty when compared to all the other Gods, almost as if he's infinitely above them all. But we'll have to see.ZERO7772 said:
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