Asura vs Alex Mercer

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Yeah we know what mercer will do the problem is asuras to unpredictable for me to confidently say what his first move is and that decides how this fight goes.

Incon Pen, planck, tony

 

[DeathNoodles]

I'll say again. Atoms are trillions of times weaker then the person the come together to make. This gap is insanely smaller than the AP gap in this thread. Hense, matter hax won't work. Hax is hax only goes so far.

An 8-C character defeated a 4-B character with an ability that induces Atomization...

That thread heavily disagrees with your logic that higher AP (without dimensional tier difference) can be used to resist Matter Manipulation hax (and that 8-C character's hax involves Atomization). Literally one of the staff members (who is also a calc member) confirms Matter Manipulation hax does not depend on AP, and unless there is an explicit statement somewhere where it states that the molecules/atoms/particles of Asura's has different properties than ordinary matter, Asura isn't resisting that by only superhuman durability alone. Matter Manipulation being durability-negating by this site's standards and working against resistance-less characters with immensely higher AP is nothing new in this site.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Hey yeah Isn't ishira purly mater hax with his bomb thing?

 

[DeathNoodles]

Hey yeah Isn't ishira purly mater hax with his bomb thing?

Anything Kira's Killer Queen touches turns into a bomb, and the target gets atomized when they blow up as a bomb (or if they manage to make contact with one of the makeshift bombs right before it detonates, basically transferring the detonation effect to the target as well), so yes.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

HA So I did give a decent example! yay for me! So now that we established hax>Ap lets move on what are your thoughts here death?

 

[DeathNoodles]

HA So I did give a decent example! yay for me! So now that we established hax>Ap lets move on what are your thoughts here death?

The only win condition that Asura has is blowing up a planet and leaving Mercer floating in space, that's basically it. Mercer can either infect Asura's via his gasses, or absorb him via touch. And since the OP didn't specify which 4-A key Asura is, it would be his strongest 4-A key, who is definitely human-sized (so he would probably try to punch Mercer first, and well... Mercer absorbs via touch). It's likely a stomp for this match.

 

[Hizack123]

OFC HAXX >>> AP BUT WHAT IS THE POINT ABOUT THIS???????

THIS IS 4-A ASURA! THE SIZE!!!!!!!

JUST ONE RANGE ATTACK FROM HIM WOULD DESTROY ALEX SO HARD THAT HE WILL NOT COMEBACK FROM THAT!!!

AND WITH CONTINENT WIDE CASUAL RANGE ATTACK COMING AT HIM WITH SPEED EQUAL LEFT ALONE SPEED DIFFERENT (like supersonic+ vs ATLEAST MFTL) HOW CAN HE DODGE THAT!???

THIS IS SO DUMB

IS A STOMP FOR ASURA VIA AP AND ALEX VIA HAXX (IF HE EVEN HAVE A CHANCE TO USE IT!!)

THAT IT JUST CLOSE THIS PLEASE!!!

 

[DeathNoodles]

OFC HAXX >>> AP BUT WHAT IS THE POINT ABOUT THIS???????

THIS IS 4-A ASURA! THE SIZE!!!!!!!

JUST ONE RANGE ATTACK FROM HIM WOULD DESTROY ALEX SO HARD THAT HE WILL NOT COMEBACK FROM THAT!!!

Asura's strongest key (the one he defeated Chakravartin with) isn't even planet-sized like his Destructor Form, so Asura's size is still human-sized here via SBA using the strongest canon key when not specified (and I'm pretty sure Asura was human-sized when he fought Chakravartin in the Event Horizon). And Asura still needs explicit scans of being able to atomize via higher AP, otherwise him overcoming Mid-High Regenerationn via sheer AP is a moot point here. And speed is equalised here, so Mercer would have plenty of chance to use his hax when Asura would most likely go for a punch.

But yeah, this match isn't fair either way, so a stomp.

 

[Hizack123]

NOPE the op never said any thing about size nor key.

And why so against about use giant form? As you said is not even the strogest key.

And while is never confirm that pure AP can overcome mid-high regen but at the same time is never comfirm that AP cannot over come mid-high too!

and is possible to atomize with pure ap too and you need high to come back from atomize.

But yeah it stomp anyway.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

SBA assumes strongest key if not stated otherwise.... No ap gap exist that allows for atomization without showing this has been discussed before.

But this is a stomp either way thus it doesn't matter.

 

[Hizack123]

SBA assumes strongest key if not stated otherwise.... No ap gap exist that allows for atomization without showing this has been discussed before.

But this is a stomp either way thus it doesn't matter.

And op never said SBA so what is your point? He only said asura is 4-A and speed equal and that is.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

He said 4a we assume the highest 4a form by sba standards...

 

[Hizack123]

I'm going to ask admin to close this now.

No point about this thread anymore.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

…You know that they are called SBA for a reason, right?

The OP doesn't need to say something because we already have those Standard Battle Assumptions

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

True enough,

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

No ap gap exist that allows for atomization without showing this has been discussed before.

I'm pretty sure that a big enough AP advantage will be able to do it

 

[Hizack123]

Ok then

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

It might be in the end but what I was told is without feats atomization through ap doesn't work, and on several questions and answer threads similar statements were made. In the end again this is a stomp either way so....

 

[Hizack123]

Amen