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Asta vs Cecilus [0-0-1]

Cecilus' swords are not magic. They are just extremely sharp and Cecilus is extremely skilled. If I don't see an extremely good argument why Cecilus can't just instantly kill Asta by nuking the entire area 10k around while being impossible to hit by practically reality bending through rain dodging skillslop I'm just gonna assume this is a hard stomp.
 
VortechsTG said:
Cecilus' swords are not magic. They are just extremely sharp and Cecilus is extremely skilled. If I don't see an extremely good argument why Cecilus can't just instantly kill Asta by nuking the entire area 10k around while being impossible to hit by practically reality bending through rain dodging skillslop I'm just gonna assume this is a hard stomp.
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Yeah it is definitely about time I upgrade asta, cause his abilities aren’t limited to magic whatsoever. Also I don’t really read Asta profile on here,but is his causality manip only magic based on here? Also isn’t Asta faster?
 
Fezzih_007 said:
Really? I agree with Cecilus winning, but saying he gonna nuke the city? C'mon.
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You're saying this like Cecilus isn't literally the guy known for being the person who has killed the most people in the entire world. Rowan literally chose him because he is a psychopath like him.

Though in character they may just agree to move to a more remote location if Asta suggests it because Cecilus would find that more dramatic.
 
VortechsTG said:
You're saying this like Cecilus isn't literally the guy known for being the person who has killed the most people in the entire world. Rowan literally chose him because he is a psychopath like him.

Though in character they may just agree to move to a more remote location if Asta suggests it because Cecilus would find that more dramatic.
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I not saying that he would't nuke the city, because that would kill a bunch of people. SBA makes them fight in a people free location.
 
PHANtomFELdway said:
Speed being equalized doesn’t nullify amps,
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Ah, you mean while using speed amps.

Well yeah, but depends on how much It increase his speed, because Cecilus can alter his perception speed so he can predict Asta. (Scroll down his page, and look in the body Control body section)

Cecilus can duraneg, so he only need to hit him once.
 
Fezzih_007 said:
Ah, you mean while using speed amps.

Well yeah, but depends on how much It increase his speed, because Cecilus can alter his perception speed so he can predict Asta. (Scroll down his page, and look in the body Control body section)
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Idk what the amp was accepted as,but pretty sure devil amp was 100x
Fezzih_007 said:
Cecilus can duraneg, so he only need to hit him once.
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What does he use to dura neg? I stopped reading at like arc 7. I barely met celius
 
PHANtomFELdway said:
What does he use to dura neg? I stopped reading at like arc 7. I barely met celius
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Cecilus can do the same space-splitting sword-flash Reinhard did wayyy back in volume 1. Also, the Fiend Sword Murasame can cut concepts.
 
Zabazab said:
But it's not a magical ability. It's just the result of all a sword's potential being used up in a single slash.
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I was thinking it was like Julius for some reason
Zabazab said:
More potent than Type 2 Conceptual Manipulation?
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I thought Asta had type 2 already ,mb let me reread the profiles.Asta can’t do anything against that,currently at least , imma make a few threads after I reread black clover again (with official translation)I think I can get cm2


(Tryna debate this on discord btw? Cause I can’t use stuff not accepted yet in this debate. Asta kinda negs otherwise
 
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You were talking about range, but does that matter? The range stated in the OP is 30m, and even if it were 4km, both have the range to hit each other.

It's kind of strange to see a fight where one character can score a one-hit kill and the other has most of his abilities rendered useless because he's not facing someone with magic.

In addition to the equalized speed issues.

Asta's MFTL+ will be equalized to Cecilus' MHS+, and Cecilius, due to the difference between movement and combat speed, will have a blitz advantage. And from what I saw on the BC multipliers page, Asta doesn't have enough multipliers.
 
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