Asriel vs SCP-239

[Aperontrust]

Both Low 2-C, in character and speed is equalized.

Asriel Dreemurr (Flowey)

Flowey the Flower is one of the main antagonists in Undertale. He first appears in the Ruin, attempting to kill Frisk for their soul before being chased by Toriel. Following this event, the flower will stalk Frisk through the Underground, something appearing to mock them before culminating in...

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Inconclusive:

Who would win and why?

 

[Comiphorous]

just gotta ask why?

 

[Aperontrust]

What do you mean with “Why”?

 

[Comiphorous]

What do you mean with “Why”?

how do you expect chara to bypass low godly regen, and the wall of haxes that 239 has compared to chara?

 

[Aperontrust]

Ye, okay never mind then sorry.

 

[Deleted member 16409]

You can change Chara to Asriel.

 

[Aperontrust]

Alright

 

[Deleted member 16409]

So.
There's the paralysis.
So, I think. Does that girl even has to move to use her ability?

If not, then Soul Hax doom her since she doesn't has Mid Godly.

 

[Lou_change]

So, I think. Does that girl even has to move to use her ability?

If not, then Soul Hax doom her since she doesn't has Mid Godly.

Though based so no and she resists soul hax

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Though based so no and she resists soul hax

Then Soul Absorb.

 

[Aperontrust]

Okay so SCP-239 starts with thought based reality warping likely Existence Erasure. What does Asriel start with?

 

[Lou_change]

Would he do it before she decides the threat is dead an kills with a thought.

 

[Aperontrust]

So.
There's the paralysis.
So, I think. Does that girl even has to move to use her ability?

If not, then Soul Hax doom her since she doesn't has Mid Godly.

What does that soul hax do? Does he start with it in character.

 

[Comiphorous]

okay so;

passive paralysis.

starts with soul hax that dura negs, not that it matters since they're equal in stats

Though based so no and she resists soul hax

whats the context of the soul resistance? just because you resist it doesn't mean you can resist all contexts of soul manipulation.

 

[Lou_change]

It is explain she resists attacking her soul also she EE's with a thought.

 

[Comiphorous]

It is explain she resists attacking her soul also she EE's with a thought.

she used EE when she was hurt. she uses it as retaliation, not a starting move. and even then asriel's attacks are still gonna hurt like a bitch regardless if you resist soul manipulation since they still damage physical things, including the body. both of those are moot points.

 

[Lou_change]

When she paralyzed in front of a giant goat monster she isn't going to hold back.

 

[Comiphorous]

hell, she used it once against a d-class. once. also, her durability is unknown, I'm not sure why universal+ is there with reality-warping since nothing on her page shows her tanking that kind of damage with it. she was damaged by a regular class d, meaning she CANT retaliate in that situation since the second she gets hit she'll ******* explode.

asriel sends a single attack, makes 239 explode due to paralysis, likely absorb their soul which is a win. again, she NEVER was shown to use her existence erasure in-character as a starting move, she used it as retaliation from taking damage from a regular human.

 

[Comiphorous]

When she paralyzed in front of a giant goat monster she isn't going to hold back.

still never used existence erasure as a starting move.

 

[Lou_change]

still never used existence erasure as a starting move.

She did it when she was threatened immediately.

 

[Comiphorous]

She did it when she was threatened immediately.

no, she used once she was damaged. the profile literally shows a scan of her using it as retaliation for being hurt, not a starting move. she gets one shot here due to having unknown durability, meaning she CANT retaliate with it as she'd be ****** dead.

 

[Comiphorous]

and, even if we go by that logic asriel starts with attacking, NOT threatening someone. asriel doesn't even have dialogue their first turn, he just straight-up attacks you without warning. not only will asriel attack them without warning, he also one shots making it impossible for her to lead with this ability as she uses it for retaliation, so unless she somehow tanks a hit from asriel (which she wont) will she actually use it.

 

[Lou_change]

gets one shot here due to having unknown durability, meaning she CANT retaliate with it as she'd be ****** dead.

Her durability from reality warping is passive.

 

[Comiphorous]

Her durability from reality warping is passive.

it wasn't passive when she was hurt by a d-class.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Nonexistent Physiology (Able to exist in a state of total nonexistence)

How would this work in this MU?

 

[Lou_change]

it wasn't passive when she was damaged by a d-class.

We don't know how it happened it is stated she makes her self indestructible subconsciously so she is defended

 

[Comiphorous]

We don't know how it happened it is stated she makes her self indestructible subconsciously so she is defended

if a d-class can walk over and damages her on accident (again this is a regular person without any supernatural abilities that would let him do such a thing if it were passive) then it's not passive.

How would this work in this MU?

good question. I'm pretty sure that should be a limited ability since she doesn't seem to be able to do that on her own, and requires someone to well. erasure her from existence to existence as nonexistence.

 

[Lou_change]

d-class can walk over and damage her on accident (again this is a regular person without any supernatural abilities that would let him do such a thing if it were passive) then it's not

Unknown context

 

[Comiphorous]

Unknown context

the context is right there. a d-class accidentally "caused her harm" she erased him from existence, wishing him back a little bit after.

there isn't any more context you need. a d-class accidentally harms a supposed universal+ entity and gets erased from existence. that's their abilities not being passive.

 

[DaReaperMan]

her defensive reality warping is passive, the only time she's been hurt by a normal person was when they were using Telekill which specifically nullifies her powers, and it was when she was absurdly weaker than the key being used

 

[Lou_change]

the context is right there. a d-class accidentally "caused her harm" she erased him from existence, wishing him back a little bit after.

there isn't any more context you need. a d-class accidentally harms a supposed universal+ entity and gets erased from existence. that's their abilities not being passive.

That was article canon and pre prime

 

[Comiphorous]

her defensive reality warping is passive, the only time she's been hurt by a normal person was when they were using Telekill which specifically nullifies her powers, and it was when she was absurdly weaker than the key being used

i dont know where the existence erasure context comes from, but did that class d happen to have a telekill and hurt them on accident?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Also, seeing as how 239 doesn't know who or what Asriel is, going by her fight with the Neverwere, she'd start with mind hax and as such Empathy haxes Asriel to absolute ******* hell and back

i dont know where the existence erasure context comes from, but did that class d happen to have a telekill and hurt them on accident?

"SCP-239 seemingly has the ability to do whatever she expresses a will to do. Put simply, the subject can do anything that she truly wants to do on a basal psychological level as long as she is conscious. Fortunately, she only seems to be able to affect herself and her immediate surroundings; therefore, "If she can see it, she can change it." It would not be the most prudent course of action, however, to try to test how powerful she can be. She seems to be able to create and affect living matter; for example, when a D-class personnel accidentally caused her harm, she simply wished him away. Fortunately, when the subject was made to feel guilty for what she had done, she wished him back. SCP-239's self-preservation instinct makes her virtually invincible while she is conscious. Subject's skin can not be punctured by anything excepting SCP-148"

148 is Telekill, in case you didn't know

 

[Comiphorous]

Also, seeing as how 239 doesn't know who or what Asriel is, going by her fight with the Neverwere, she'd start with mind hax and as such Empathy haxes Asriel to absolute ******* hell and back

"SCP-239 seemingly has the ability to do whatever she expresses a will to do. Put simply, the subject can do anything that she truly wants to do on a basal psychological level as long as she is conscious. Fortunately, she only seems to be able to affect herself and her immediate surroundings; therefore, "If she can see it, she can change it." It would not be the most prudent course of action, however, to try to test how powerful she can be. She seems to be able to create and affect living matter; for example, when a D-class personnel accidentally caused her harm, she simply wished him away. Fortunately, when the subject was made to feel guilty for what she had done, she wished him back. SCP-239's self-preservation instinct makes her virtually invincible while she is conscious. Subject's skin can not be punctured by anything excepting SCP-148"

148 is Telekill, in case you didn't know

ah cool, thanks for the clarification.