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Essentially yeah. Asgore can one shot Kai and so can Kai one tap him with his attacks
He has fire resistances, just not on 9000 degrees lvl
Seems so
Damn
Danmaku + Burn Kai to death
Fire that is hotter 9000 degrees danmaku
If he can do that, then it wouldn't be a stomp cuz it would straight be an one tap move for Asgore
Couldn't Kai just spinjutsu to block the fire? also the attack don't seen to target the oponent directly sinse the middle of the attack is a small rain of fire that is supposed to make the oponent dodge It to the sides where the fire jeiser comes from
He can't use it infinitely either which is why he'll eventually need to stop to catch his breath
Isn't that just a case of "X can use his wincoins faster than Y" like in the Wanda vs Kai thread?
I don't think asgore has a single attack Kai can't just spinjutsu to block It, even this "surprise attack" don't target the oponent directly but around where the atttack start, unless we consider It to be game mechanics and Asgore can just summon this jeiser of fire wherenever he wants Kai would just spinjutsu block or get out of the area of attack before the jeiser of fire hit him
Spinjitzu eventually drains you. If he keeps spamming, he'll just hit Kai when he gets out of it
For Kai to do that, he would have to be faster than Asgore since the begining, which he isn't, I don't see why off-guards won't work either
He outskill asgore, he just need to spinjutsu and go in a straight line to asgore sinse he don't even try to dodge when fighting humans... unless that is game mechanics but sans fight seen to imply otherwise
As I said the attack isn't just the geiser of fire, It's a dodgeble slow rain of fire that if the oponent try to dodge too the sides a geiser of fire can appear from bellow and up, this gives Kai more then enough time to just move out of the area where the attack is being helded, there is a bunch of proof that implies monsters have to follow this attack patters with sans saying "never understood why people don't use their best attack first" and papyrus having his special attack
Soul based attacks would still hurt Kai as a living being
Asgore has soul based attacks which Kai has no resistance to whatsoever. I'll just make him bloodlusted
Wouldn't that just one tap the Fire Ninja?
Isn't that Game Mechanics?
No, his soul has star level durability as I stated above, there will be no soul damage lol
Yea, asgore soul attacks are based on "I can funking attack your soul like It is your body" only effective against characters that their soul has no durability feats
If It hits that will most likely not hit
Debatable, but as I mentioned we have 2 statments that imply to not be game mechanics
Hum... I guess Kai soul has no heat resistence feats so maybe the burning the soul may one shoot? not sure if that's how It would work
Bypassing the body to harm the soul would be dura neg and would affect him
I made Asgore bloodlusted so there's no playing around from him
YES, BUT THE SOUL HAS DURABILITY FEATS, SO THE SOUL JUST TANK WITHOUT TAKING DAMAGE, what is hard of this to understand?
I don't think this change the fact asgore has to attack like he does in game
His Soul doesn't resist the heat. He would still die
Yeah but it would also mean he can dodge
Sorry, I'm being rude, let me try to explain better
Okay, now that's a argument, I have no idea how heat would interact with the soul so let's assume his soul would be one shooted by the heat, that's fair
Oh, okay didn't think about that, still think this don't matter much, Kai has a much better stamina feat so even if asgore drags the fight on to eventually get a hit on Kai he will tire much quiker then Kai will, and as said before, kai can just block and dodge Asgore Danmaku with spinjutsu
I get that, but I was saying that the heat produced by the attack (9000°F) would be harmful to Kai even if he could take the blow. So the only way for Kai to actually win this is throught AP, while Asgore can just keep spamming attacks until Kai tires out
Yea, but Kai has a much better stamina feat (days walking in the desert without rest or water or food) when compared to asgore that just keept up with frisk untill he was too hurted to keep fighting so dragging the fight untill Kai is to tired to keep fighting will not be a option
Didn't Asgore fought a war for years? Also, Kai will tire out from Spinjitzu much faster than his normal self, which is why he can't only rely on it and will be forced to attack with his fire blasts
Is Kai FTL combat speed equal to his other speed stats? beacuse you know, when equalizing speed we equalize the combat speed to the speed of the slower character and change the other speed stats by the same multiplier
He can also just dodge without using spinjutsu, also asgore only skill feat is fighting a war and outskilling a young Undyne while Kai has a lot more combat feats so I still would give Kai the skill advantage, maybe even the experience adavantage beacuse even trough asgore is much older he didn't keept fighting most of his life so he technically has less combat experience possible
His reactions/combat scales to the same feat yeah
yeah
Yes, but he would no longer have a speed advantage without it
How skilled is Undyne?
Speed equalized means It wouldn't be that hard, I guess he would be more vulnerable to the other Danmaku attacks from asgore... do we have any evidence of Kai dodging Danmaku?
Young Undyne is not nerly as skilled as the undyne we see in game sinse she was still traning so It's irrelevant
4982.222°C is far above Kai's resistances tho, how?
Now prove this fire lingers. It'll burn, not kill unless he's a dumbass and can't dodge.
