Arrowverse CRT: Hypertimeline

[ByArrow]

The multiverse was destroyed and then a new multiverse was created. When the old multiverse was destroyed, the past and the future were destroyed.

I'm betting you already tried to go back before Crisis started, and you couldn't, right?

That's because that past is from a multi-versal world that no longer exists.

♪ ♪ k*lling me won't reset the timeline.

That future is gone.

The Flash 7x4 "Central City Strong"

Magog was able to go to the old multiverse and bring Superman back. This suggests that there is Possible a Hypertimeline in the verse.

Ciso vibed the Flashpoint timeline in Flash Season 3 Episode 12, meaning it must still exist on at least the same level as possible timelines.

The Flashpoint timeline was undone by speedster actions, and thusly an overridden timeline.

Those in agreement: @ByAsura, @Pepsimanslover_69, @Oliver_de_jesus, @Qawsedf234, @Hellformer

Those in disagreement:

Those yet to form an opinion:

 

[ByAsura]

I could be wrong, but I think this should be good enough.

 

[Pepsimanslover_69]

What's the evidence that these Multiverses have their own time dimension?

 

[Pepsimanslover_69]

Nevermind, it looks solid

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

I guess this is fine

 

[Qawsedf234]

The Flashpoint timeline was undone by speedster actions, and thusly an overridden timeline.

A Hypertime is just a 3D+(X+1) structure. For most universes that means 3D+2 or 4D+2.

The CW's Speed Force however, is just straight up 11-D. You can fit a Hypertimeline within a 11-D multiverse with something like 9D+2 and no one would scale to it other than something with complete control over the Speed Force.

This is even more important since the Anti-Monitor is just 2-A. The cosmology looking like this:

• Universe = 3D+1
• Multiverse = 4D+1
• Hypertimeline = 4D+2
• Fifth Dimension = 5D+2

Would make anyone below the Fifth Dimension unable to access the a Hypertimeline for a showing.

So if you're suggesting that everyone that's 2-A should be upgraded to Low 1-C I'm against it. The most this implies to me is that you'd get a 1-B rating for something that created the entire cosmology.

 

[ByAsura]

The Speed Force isn't part of the normal structure of the multiverse. It's outside and above it, not to mention atemporal.

The Speedster was brought up because other time travel methods in the verse create alternate timelines, whereas Speedsters actually override the original timelines (or fragment them in the most extreme cases).

 

[Qawsedf234]

The Speed Force isn't part of the normal structure of the multiverse. It's outside and above it, not to mention atemporal.

The Speedster was brought up because other time travel methods in the verse create alternate timelines, whereas Speedsters actually override the original timelines (or fragment them in the most extreme cases).

If that's the case then its just 11D with something below it having a +2 rating somewhere. So I'm not seeing what this change would effect.

 

[ByAsura]

The Speed Force doesn't factor into Hypertime at all, is my point.

It's a totally separate thing than what the OP is covering, which is the normal multiversal time stream.

 

[Qawsedf234]

It's a totally separate thing than what the OP is covering, which is the normal multiversal time stream.

I already gave an explanation here:

• Universe = 3D+1
• Multiverse = 4D+1
• Hypertimeline = 4D+2
• Fifth Dimension = 5D+2

They have 8-10 Dimensions to work with that can include a Hypertimeline without it scaling to a multiverse.

 

[ByAsura]

Both examples are universes that are part of the normal multiverse, though.

In that clip, Cisco sees Flashpoint with his abilities. Vibers see the vibrational energies of the multiverse, so it's part of the normal multiversal structure. For example, people from Earth-1 operate at different frequencies to people from Earth-2.

In the comic, Magog's staff extends to the universes of the multiverse.

Also, we literally know next to nothing about the 5th dimension. Assuming it's part of the multiverse and has hypertime is a big stretch, especially considering that it (unlike the Speed Force itself) wasn't even affected by Crisis.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Also, we literally know next to nothing about the 5th dimension. Assuming it's part of the multiverse and has hypertime is a big stretch, especially considering that it (unlike the Speed Force itself) wasn't even affected by Crisis.

The point is that you have 11-Dimensions to work with. The OP would need to specify where in those 11-Dimensions they're placing the Hypertime line. They currently aren't doing that, so you can place it anywhere and it wouldn't change anything because of that.

Assuming it's part of the multiverse and has hypertime is a big stretch,

For this, I didn't assume its part of the multiverse. I listed it as being above it, just with it having two time axis with five geometric axis.

 

[ByAsura]

Ok, then.

In this case, it's 3 & 4.

 

[Qawsedf234]

In this case, it's 3 & 4.

So 3D+2?

 

[ByAsura]

I think it'd be 4D+2.

Time is 4-D in the CW, and that's what these characters ****** with.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Time is 4-D in the CW, and that's what these characters ****** with.

By 4D do you mean it the 4th Dimension or that its 3D+1.

 

[ByAsura]

Time's confirmed to be the 4th dimension on a few occasions, IIRC. I'll see if I can dig up some quotes.

 

[ByAsura]

Caitlin: "Einstein postulated that it was theoretically possible for a region-specific fold in the space time to exist between the four dimensions that we typically think of."

Flash 4x19

 

[Qawsedf234]

Time's confirmed to be the 4th dimension on a few occasions, IIRC. I'll see if I can dig up some quotes.

In that case a Hypertime Line in the CW would be a +1 somewhere. Like 4D+1 or something along those lines.

 

[Hellformer]

Agree