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Arrogant Child fights Lazy Boxer

DeltaStriker22

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azontr said:
Can I get an actual argument on how Yagami is a more skilled fighter than Siha, or...?
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Siha only trained in boxing while Yagami trained in multiple martial arts such as Karate, Aikido, Boxing, Judo and Jeet Kune Do, all to atleast 5th dan black belt level so he should have a really good idea how to deal with someone who only uses boxing.
Just because he doesn't have analytical prediction doesn't mean he can't dodge siha's attacks and counter.
And to top it off, the 9kj for siha is a highball while the 12kj for yagami is most likely a lowball, so he has an AP advantage as well.
Siha can predict Yagami's boxing but there is nothing suggesting he can do the same for martial arts he's never faced before like karate, judo, aikido, etc.
 
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It's an assumption to assume Siha's predictions are limited to Boxing when that's never shown or stated. Having more skills doesn't make you more skilled if the person your fighting is generally a better fighter.
 
azontr said:
It's an assumption to assume Siha's predictions are limited to Boxing when that's never shown or stated. Having more skills doesn't make you more skilled if the person your fighting is generally a better fighter.
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Yagami is a better fighter. He was rank 1 in the 5th generation of the White Room, a program to create the perfect human being by such a wide margin that other skilled fighters like Ichika couldn't defeat him even once and it's not like he just took one or two classes in all those martial arts. He's atleast 5th dan in Karate and 4th dan in Aikido and there is no reason to assume his skill would be any lower in the other ones since his goal was to surpass Ayanokoji.
azontr said:
It's an assumption to assume Siha's predictions are limited to Boxing when that's never shown or stated.
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You're making an assumption here as well. How could someone predict attacks they've never seen before? Siha has analytical prediction, not precognition. Yagami also has a massive advantage in intelligence and unlike siha who hasn't faced any other martial arts, yagami has faced boxers in WR so he should have experience on how to fight them.
 
DeltaStriker22 said:
Yagami is a better fighter. He was rank 1 in the 5th generation of the White Room, a program to create the perfect human being by such a wide margin that other skilled fighters like Ichika couldn't defeat him even once and it's not like he just took one or two classes in all those martial arts. He's atleast 5th dan in Karate and 4th dan in Aikido and there is no reason to assume his skill would be any lower in the other ones since his goal was to surpass Ayanokoji.
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Cool.

DeltaStriker22 said:
You're making an assumption here as well. How could someone predict attacks they've never seen before? Siha has analytical prediction, not precognition. Yagami also has a massive advantage in intelligence and unlike siha who hasn't faced any other martial arts, yagami has faced boxers in WR so he should have experience on how to fight them.
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The... whole point of analytical prediction is to predict the attacks before they happen. Not having seen them before is irrelevant because you WILL see them and be able to respond. That's the entire point of a prediction.
 
But Siha's predictions aren't instant either. He takes a whole round to memorise he opponent's attack patters and only after that can he use his analitical prediction. There is no prep time before the fight his prediction wouldn't be as accurate as they were against Jay. And if their was prep time Yagami would be able to utilise it better due to his genius intellegence and photographic memory.
 
DeltaStriker22 said:
But Siha's predictions aren't instant either. He takes a whole round to memorise he opponent's attack patters and only after that can he use his analitical prediction. There is no prep time before the fight his prediction wouldn't be as accurate as they were against Jay. And if their was prep time Yagami would be able to utilise it better due to his genius intellegence and photographic memory.
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They kind of are instant, though? He started analyzing information on Jay the instant they touched hands.
 
Nothing in Yagami's side is impressive. AP is irrelevant when you're hitting air. There is no use for any of his abilities even if you give Siha 1000 rounds to do nothing. Arguably you can say that his stamina is an issue but it's not like Yagami has anything impressive. This is one sided stomp for Siha and is not vote worthy.

But yeah the Analyzing thing did take a round even after he observed and made contact with Jay.
 
Regardless of whether or not it's instant (basically is), a typical Boxing Round is like 3 minutes out of each round of 12. Siha isn't going down in 3 minutes with an AP gap this negligible lol.
 
I...assume we're using the highest end for Siha AP value here?

If so then, yeah. He basically just turtles until two minutes passes, like he does in his matches. Nothing on the other guy's profile counters his shit just being predicted and countered after that.
 
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
I mean it seems like a stomp regardless

Though about Anal prediction, it should also be noted that Even average boxers have a degree of Anal Prediction. Which, unlike Siha's own unique predictions, don't have an explicit time requirement. Which is supported by Siha being able to somewhat react to Jay attempting to blitz him at the start of the fight.

So like...honestly, even before his "better" predictions kick in, he shouldn't really have an issue reading his initial hits.
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azontr said:
The... whole point of analytical prediction is to predict the attacks before they happen. Not having seen them before is irrelevant because you WILL see them and be able to respond. That's the entire point of a preprediction
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Not when he has only shown to predict boxing moves. Also Yagami's superior skill means he will have a hard time predicting in the first place
 
Dude reads your heartbeat, muscle movements, blood flow, attack patterns, etc all of that just like a computer.
"Ha Ha no you see he only fought boxers therefore it wouldn't work on anything else.
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Imagine every analytical ability was like this. It will heavily nerf the living shit out of its use.
 
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