Archie Sonic Verse Vs. Puella Magi Verse

[Bobsican]

Instead of SBA, this is used.

 

[PaChi2]

I thought you'd create a thread regarding X times 2-A.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

What the ****.

 

[Schnee_One]

Madoka beats Sonic and Homura mindhaxes Enerjak

 

[Bobsican]

What the ****.

Everyone that can be 2-A is 2-A here, by the way.

 

[PaChi2]

UKG stands.

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

Homura solos.

 

[Bobsican]

What the ****.

How do you think this can go?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Dunno. I guess Homura mind haxes everyone.

 

[Bobsican]

Dunno. I guess Homura mind haxes everyone.

Fate manip and mayyybe lack of range for it to mind hax everyone?

 

[PaChi2]

Type 4: Irregular Causality: Characters with this type of Acausality operate on a different and irregular system of cause and effect than regular causality. This grants them resistance to abilities such as Causality Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, and Precognition, among others.

They have this.

I take the Sonic cast can bypass it?

 

[Bobsican]

In that case...

How fast and strong is the mind hax?

 

[PaChi2]

If we assume they are at their peak UKG is already a walking Nonexistent 2-A multiverse.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Yeah it looks like Evil Homura's mind hax surpasses their Resistance, and her Acausality nopes Sonic's Fate Manip.

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

In that case...

How fast and strong is the mind hax?

Range doesn't matter when they started in the same Multiverse.

And looked at the other thread about the mindhax potency.

 

[Bobsican]

I mean, Mega Man´s multiverse and Sonic´s multiverse are separated

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

I mean, Mega Man´s multiverse and Sonic´s multiverse are separated

So is the "World of Witches" and the "World of Wraiths" in PMMM.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

It's not like the battle will start from separate multiverses...

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

It's not like the battle will start from separate multiverses...

PMMM God Tier ranges cover other Multiverse as well anyway.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Cool.

 

[Bobsican]

RIP Archie then.

This remembers me of Dragon Ball 2-Bs, they have the AP but are haxstomped by any other competent 2-Bs

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Archie 2-As actually have semi-decent walls of texts.

 

[Bobsican]

I meant in this case in particular, of course.

 

[ShakeResounding]

PMV's best 2-As are > Archie's 2-A's. No different then last time, so here's the pecking order.

Madoka > Sonic and all other 3-D beings with her Nigh-Omniscience telling her how dangerous they are.

Enerjak > Madoka.

Homura's mindhax > Enerjak and all Archie 2-As resistance to it.

Aaaaand done.

 

[HST_Master]

Puella Magica throws it's Kyubei Seriously **** Kyubei

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

Who the hell did say that Archie is the strongest non-infinite 2-A?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

They're presumed to be vastly above baseline due to reasons stated here, but they're far from the strongest in terms of abilities and powers (probably because most of the Verse is 3D and lacks passive abilities)

 

[ShakeResounding]

Strongest non-infinites AP-wise. But with everything? Hell no.

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

So 14 chaos emeralds=Baseline 2-A? And there is countless of them.

I fails to see how is that stronger than Puella God Tier. Madoka, Homura, UKG are countless times stronger Peak Avatar of Calamity who came to existence from a mere side effect from UKG's curse which can destroys Multiverse.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Because there where enough Chaos Emeralds to create an ocean made of them, cover a good portion of the surface of Mobius, they grow exponentially in power the more you have, and more were scattered throughout the entire universe. It's... Not quantifiable.

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

The same can be said to UKG's curses. Its side effect, I repeat side effect, can corrupts something and turned them into this thing. Madoka can takes on the Full force of UKG curses without any trouble and Homura scales to her.

And UKG is like.....huge.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Is the difference between Madoka and the Avatar of Calamity ever stated or are they just stronger to an unknown extent?

 

[SomebodyData]

@Maverick The latter.

@Beast you're kinda exagerrating the gap, a lot no? It does seem the Archie Sonic verse has the strongest (non-infinite and AP-wise) 2-As here.

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

???

I thought if your power can basically created a Multiversal busting entity by accident means that your actual power is much much stronger than said entity. And the fact you didn't even try should support that too.

I mean, yeah it is unknown. But so is the amount of Chaos Emerald in Archie universe.

 

[SomebodyData]

Both unknown but there is a pretty apparent gap between "side effect" and "an ocean's worth"

 

[Schnee_One]

I'm not seeing why Countless of times stronger then a casual baseline feat beats Sonic automatically.

Upscaling that up to people on Sonics level is absolute wank.

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

Both unknown but there is a pretty apparent gap between "side effect" and "an ocean's worth"

I mean...UKG's "Body" is literally curses. And the amount of said curses was as big as a Galaxy at the very least. That dwarfs Ocean by....a lot.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Not really going to comment on the fight but even 14 Emeralds isn't baseline 2-A in the slightest.

You have the multiverses of Sonic and Mega Man, plus Maginaryworld which holds the dreams of every single person in those infinite realities, and they all become universes of their own.

Then obviously during Great Harmony, you have the countless upon countless numbers of Emeralds (enough to cover the surfaces of planets) fused together into a set of 7.

 

[SomebodyData]

14 emeralds = 2-A

Any amount of curses = literally no knowable tiering. We don't even know if Peak AoC would need most or a few of UKG's curses.

I'm not even sure why AP factors in this tho, since the Archie verse gets outhaxxed.

 

[ShakeResounding]

@Beast You're ignoring the "cover a majority of a planet and gathered all the Emeralds throughout the galaxy/universe" part. It's more than just an ocean.