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@Theglass Hmmm perhaps at a later time as saying she is highly resistant to all form of haxs will be NLF as well.
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Arceus vs Sailor Moon
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That high resistance to hax needs to be specified or it's NLF.
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I still think Arceus can just seal her away like he did Hoopa. And FYI, just because you have resistance does not mean you have immunity. Arceus's hax can still work on her if anything
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Wait a minute. Arceus has a win over chaos, isn't this a stomp since he defeated someone who can do things that cosmos cannot?
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@Theglass Not exactly, but that one person seems to said it was PIS for Cosmo being unable to undo the damage that Chaos caused to the universe (Universe+) and more.
Edit: Actually it is a decisive match.
Edit: Actually it is a decisive match.
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Whoops my bad, I should have said no to that question.
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Chaos is way bellow this key of Sailor Moon. This Sailor Moon even has all of Chaos powers on top of her own. This key is above the key that reduced Chaos to an infinitesimally small part of it or something.
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Hmmmmm I not so sure on that anyway as I said this will cause a problem if we showing bias to one side or to the another.
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How does Sailor Moon counter the "Omnipotent" ability? That ability allows Arceus to ignore resistances and defense bonuses.
Omnipotent:
Omnipotent:
| A series of abilities that appeared in Pokemon Conquest, it grants Arceus the ability to heal minor wounds between trades, strike incorporeal targets, ignore defensive bonuses and resistances, and precognitive powers. | ||
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@Star Uuuh... What?
What bias am I showing? I'm saying what happened in the story and what's written in her profile. I'm not saying she stomps Arceus. All that I said is "Chaos is way bellow this key of Sailor Moon" because Chaos was reduced to an infinitesimally small part of itself by a weaker version of Moon in the manga and hence it cannot be compared to this one as an equal.
Since when explaining what happened in the series the character came from is bias?
If you told me Arceus beat the Creation Trio easily, that wouldn't be bias.
What bias am I showing? I'm saying what happened in the story and what's written in her profile. I'm not saying she stomps Arceus. All that I said is "Chaos is way bellow this key of Sailor Moon" because Chaos was reduced to an infinitesimally small part of itself by a weaker version of Moon in the manga and hence it cannot be compared to this one as an equal.
Since when explaining what happened in the series the character came from is bias?
If you told me Arceus beat the Creation Trio easily, that wouldn't be bias.
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@Fate Hmmm it seems when I check the other thread, you are petty stubborn about it when it was Chaos vs Arceus, but that wasn't a display of bias. Also I not accused anyone of being biased as I said "It will cause a problem" if it is truly bias.
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Indeed, I was debating about Chaos easily losing to Arceus at the time but as you would see if you read the entire thing, I conceded and actually gave my vote for Arceus by the end of it which is what settled the match in the first place. And I never compared Chaos to this key of Moon either.
I was comparing her to the key BELLOW this one, that does not possess all of her powers as well (And still, PIS is what made Chaos comparable to her, the moment she got enraged, Chaos was pwned).
I was comparing her to the key BELLOW this one, that does not possess all of her powers as well (And still, PIS is what made Chaos comparable to her, the moment she got enraged, Chaos was pwned).
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I see. Well in any case, I will not vote in this matter as it can get messy when it comes to it.
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So if sailor moon loses this match, does that mean that chaos's loss will be removed or something?
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@Theglass No as that match was a fair and square match plus it wasn't really a stomp going by how that match goes.
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Fate said that this sailor moon is stronger than chaos. So why would arceus have a win against a character weaker than the one he just defeated? It's like having a win against naruto and kaguya, which is ridiculous.
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@Theglass I not so sure as I can not take Fate's word at face value as they (Chaos and Sailor Moon, the character) are both Low 2-C and whether why it was said that way I not so sure as I have no knowledge on Sailor Moon lore.
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I have a better suggestion.
Why not stop speaking about Chaos until the actual match is decided and then, perhaps in another thread, you decide whether that win against Chaos gets removed or not depending on the results for this one. Because as it is right now, the whole "Chaos this, Chaos that" is derailing this thread a lot.
Why not stop speaking about Chaos until the actual match is decided and then, perhaps in another thread, you decide whether that win against Chaos gets removed or not depending on the results for this one. Because as it is right now, the whole "Chaos this, Chaos that" is derailing this thread a lot.
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Also, counting @Anime's vote.
Arceus: 2 (RadicalMrR, Anime4Life2020)
Sailor Moon: 0
Inconclusive: 0
Arceus: 2 (RadicalMrR, Anime4Life2020)
Sailor Moon: 0
Inconclusive: 0
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Alright then as I will see how this goes.
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I honestly have to go with Sailor moon due to the amount of hax she's resisted to and her mid godly regen.
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Arceus: 2 (RadicalMrR, Anime4Life2020)
Sailor Moon: 2 (Theglassman12, Iamunanimousinthat)
Inconclusive: 0
Sailor Moon: 2 (Theglassman12, Iamunanimousinthat)
Inconclusive: 0
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...did I even vote?
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No, Cal. Apparently you forgot, LOL
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Huh. Well, I actually think for now I'm gonna watch this from afar. Me adding input would probably make this less interesting, so I'll let y'alls carry on.
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Perish Song won't work on her, she can still fight while comatose. And again, she can just possess her past self and stop that from happening.
Sealing her won't work, Queen Nehellenia sealed her inside her own attack and they were stil lable to free themselves.
Sealing her won't work, Queen Nehellenia sealed her inside her own attack and they were stil lable to free themselves.
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I will say that Arceus does have a major AP advantage, Moon's hax resistance is very vague, and that most abilities she has is negated by the plates.
Also, I don't see Arceus letting her posses her past self, as he is a crudton above the master of time, who I believe showed greater time hax than her.
Also, I don't see Arceus letting her posses her past self, as he is a crudton above the master of time, who I believe showed greater time hax than her.
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If there was petty good explanations on how Moon's hax resistance works and stuff, this will be fine. Also it could really help to get someone who is a legit expert on Sailor Moon lores as taking statements by their face value is starting to irriate me a bit. Until how her hax resistance is actually been clearly explained, then that will decide the match.
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The possession isn't through time travel. It's an inherent ability and seems more soul conmected.
And sailor moon's powers can cut across time and space.
In the second arc, her powers didn't work in the future because the silver crystal can only work in its correct time period. Neo queen serenity gave her a ppwer boost and she gained the power to cut across time and space allowing her powers to ignore time and space and work anywhere. So whatever Arceus does to her timewise won't affect her powers as they'll just bypass time altogether.
And don't forget by virtue of the pluto crystal she also exists outside time and space.
And sailor moon's powers can cut across time and space.
In the second arc, her powers didn't work in the future because the silver crystal can only work in its correct time period. Neo queen serenity gave her a ppwer boost and she gained the power to cut across time and space allowing her powers to ignore time and space and work anywhere. So whatever Arceus does to her timewise won't affect her powers as they'll just bypass time altogether.
And don't forget by virtue of the pluto crystal she also exists outside time and space.
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Hmmm does that mean she is resistant to all forms of space and time manipulations though? Also Arceus happen to exist outside time and space as he lived in his own dimension and he predated before the multiverse (universes).
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If you're doing anything related to the past or future, it's time related. Not to mention that Arceus has demonstrated bypassing time also. Casually at that.
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What has arceus done specifically that would prevent Sailor Moon from possessing her past self?
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If he erased her past self, she'll just regenerate with the Lambda power, And erasing the past won't get rid of the future version do the semi-causality.
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Yeah but if you erase the past self, the past self will just regenerate with the Lambda power, and the future version would still be able to possess them once they'ved reformed. It will just be going around in circles.
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Hmmmm He can reverse time, stop time itself, and he has precog as well just saying here.
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What's Sailor Moon's counter to spatial/temporal warping? Or having the concept of willpower manipulated?
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Considering the Lake Trio were the one's who wished forth the concept of Souls into the verse and Arceus created them, anything and everything Soul Related should be no selled under Arceus's watch.Iamunanimousinthat said:
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@Anime
That's NLF, how does creating souls somehow allow you to prevent someone from controlling their past self. Especially when in Sailor Moon universe, Sailor Cosmos has complete control of the Galaxy Cauldron, the structure that creates "souls" in the first place.
It's not even just souls, it's the star seeds, the essence of a person, the very core that the Soul, body, and mind are projected from. And her soul resistance is extremely high. First of all, she doesn't need a body or a soul to exist, as Saturn was able to form without neither. Second, on the event of her Star Seed being taken away from her she recreated it.
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Sailor Mon has survived the destruction of spacetime and can leave the timeline altogether. She exists outside time and space and is immune to time and space manipulation. She has precog as well as danger sense, including future vision,
She has highlevel mind resistence and at the bottom of the of River Oblivion where she was losing her mind and memories, she lost her will to live and go on but was able to fight it's effects and bounce back without needed the cure of the river of Oblivion.
That's NLF, how does creating souls somehow allow you to prevent someone from controlling their past self. Especially when in Sailor Moon universe, Sailor Cosmos has complete control of the Galaxy Cauldron, the structure that creates "souls" in the first place.
It's not even just souls, it's the star seeds, the essence of a person, the very core that the Soul, body, and mind are projected from. And her soul resistance is extremely high. First of all, she doesn't need a body or a soul to exist, as Saturn was able to form without neither. Second, on the event of her Star Seed being taken away from her she recreated it.
@Breloom And @Starkiller
Sailor Mon has survived the destruction of spacetime and can leave the timeline altogether. She exists outside time and space and is immune to time and space manipulation. She has precog as well as danger sense, including future vision,
She has highlevel mind resistence and at the bottom of the of River Oblivion where she was losing her mind and memories, she lost her will to live and go on but was able to fight it's effects and bounce back without needed the cure of the river of Oblivion.
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