Aragami upgrade (plus additions)

[Tomfer]

Tier:​

Ryo's profile is currently at "at least 9-B" due to a very strange/dubious feat, by being completely unharmed by a self-explosion of a boss. The destruction is clear and he, indeed, destroyed brick walls and the floor, but Ryo can be seen teleported away from said explosion. The only two foundations this feat has is the fact that the heat wave of the explosion can be seen behind Ryo, clearly showing that the explosion did somewhat affected him, and the dialogue after, with Yamiko asking how did Ryo survived and him not knowing. I see this feat as a "Possibly 9-B" and the addition of instinct action.

However, Ryo can comfortably be set on 9-C due to his weaponry and how aragamis can casually tank slashes from katanas and fireballs from the fire adepts.

Thanks to @Dalesean027, now we got a calc that most characters in the verse can scale to.

Aragami Fireball

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Additions:​

Self-Sustenance type 2 & 3: Aragamis do not require food, drink or rest to survive.
Retrocognition and Precognition: Aragamis can see an enemy's recently traveled path and see the future predicted path.

(I need to replay aragami for a more complete crt, damn)

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks alright.

 

[Dalesean027]

fireballs from the fire adepts.

Clip of this?, it could be 9-B

Otherwise everything is fine but I'd key the two games. That said I'd also need to replay the games for anything more

 

[Tomfer]

Clip of this?, it could be 9-B

Nah, they don't have destructive feats. It's just an explosion. Here is a clip of said fireballs being deflected.

but I'd key the two games.

They're not the same character, Ryo doesn't appear on Aragami 2. I'm still planning on Kurai's (the protagonist of 2) profile, but other things came up.

 

[Dalesean027]

Nah, they don't have destructive feats. It's just an explosion. Here is a clip of said fireballs being deflected.

This would still be 9-B

They're not the same character, Ryo doesn't appear on Aragami 2. I'm still planning on Kurai's (the protagonist of 2) profile, but other things came up

Ah I see

 

[Tomfer]

This would still be 9-B

How so?

 

[Dalesean027]

How so?

Fireball is still 9-B and as far as I'm seeing it isn't some supernatural attack reflection ability, he just parries it normally overpowering with force sending it back.

That said idk if it actually one shots him in gameplay but if not he should scale

 

[Tomfer]

Fireball is still 9-B and as far as I'm seeing it isn't some supernatural attack reflection ability, he just parries it normally overpowering with force sending it back.

Nothing in Aragami is really "supernatural" or magical, it's explained as "life essence" coming to life.

That said idk if it actually one shots him in gameplay but if not he should scale

Nah, they can withstand a few, like 3-4 fireballs. See how little damage they do here.

Edit: More scans of the protagonist getting hit by the fireballs.

 

[Dalesean027]

Nah, they can withstand a few, like 3-4 fireballs. See how little damage they do here.

Oh yeah then this should work fully then for a 9-B rating

 

[Tomfer]

Oh yeah then this should work fully then for a 9-B rating

What would be the value? I tried looking up in the common feat refs but couldn't find anything related to fireballs.

 

[Dalesean027]

What would be the value? I tried looking up in the common feat refs but couldn't find anything related to fireballs.

Oh no this would need to be calculated, I can just do it

 

[Tomfer]

Oh no this would need to be calculated, I can just do it

I assume you'll calculate how far the smoke/flames go around the target? Because there's no destructive feats of said fireballs.

 

[Dalesean027]

I assume you'll calculate how far the smoke/flames go around the target? Because there's no destructive feats of said fireballs.

Doesn't need to like destroy a building to be 9-B, its like a 2m sphere or fire that itself is 9-B

 

[Tomfer]

Doesn't need to like destroy a building to be 9-B, its like a 2m sphere or fire that itself is 9-B

Fair, fair. Btw here's a clip of someone using fire with physical attacks, just so someone doesn't say that it doesn't apply to physicals or something like that.

 

[Dalesean027]

Fair, fair. Btw here's a clip of someone using fire with physical attacks, just so someone doesn't say that it doesn't apply to physicals or something like that.

That and the player character surviving it should make it fine

 

[Tomfer]

That and the player character surviving it should make it fine

I guess it's officially 9-B, I guess the wording for Ryo's profile should be like:

"Comparable, if not superior, to other Aragamis, who constantly fight fire adepts that can do this"

 

[Dalesean027]

Comparable, if not superior, to other Aragamis, who constantly fight fire adepts that can do this"

Justification for the first statement and then for the second part more like " withstood fireball attacks from fire adepts" (link to calc over text)

 

[Tomfer]

Justification for the first statement

You mean why Ryo should be comparable/superior to other aragami? Ryo was the only one who was capable of fighting Yamiko, and she's by far the strongest character in the verse. Kurai and the main villain of 2 are Mid-Tier (?) since they're can casually kill fodder enemies. Fodder is unamed aragami and the enemies you already saw.

then for the second part more like " withstood fireball attacks from fire adepts" (link to calc over text)

"Comparable, if not superior, to other Aragamis, who withstood fireball attacks from fire adepts"?

 

[Dalesean027]

You mean why Ryo should be comparable/superior to other aragami? Ryo was the only one who was capable of fighting Yamiko, and she's by far the strongest character in the verse. Kurai and the main villain of 2 are Mid-Tier (?) since they're can casually kill fodder enemies. Fodder is unamed aragami and the enemies you already saw.

Yeah that's what I'm saying just write ou the why for that on the profile so that works

"Comparable, if not superior, to other Aragamis, who withstood fireball attacks from fire adepts"?

Yup this will do

 

[Tomfer]

Yeah that's what I'm saying just write ou the why for that on the profile so that works

I was planning on making a verse page with the scaling chain explanation (the one I just told you) but I can put other notes for the moment.

Yup this will do

Great. I guess I'll put this crt on-hold until the calc is done. Appreciate the help, Dale.

 

[Dalesean027]

Aragami Fireball

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[Tomfer]

Aragami Fireball

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9-A??? That's crazy...

(I should try to downgrade my verses more often)

 

[Dalesean027]

9-A??? That's crazy...

(I should try to downgrade my verses more often)

yeah wasn't expecting that but here we are lol

 

[Tomfer]

yeah wasn't expecting that but here we are lol

RIP all my planned versus matches.

(I can't give Bambu a MORK BORG vsthread anymore)

 

[SeijiSetto]

the 9-A fireball calc's been approved.

 

[Tomfer]

the 9-A fireball calc's been approved.

Updated the OP accordingly, thanks.

Looks alright.

Medeus, if you could check it again, I'd appreciate it.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Fireball calc gives me pause, if the only other feats in the verse are 9-C, but at least it isn't an insane gap- we'll tolerate it. I accept the CRT.

 

[Tomfer]

Fireball calc gives me pause, if the only other feats in the verse are 9-C, but at least it isn't an insane gap- we'll tolerate it. I accept the CRT.

If it makes it better, these fireballs come from fodder characters that are everywhere in the second game.

Also, while I'm here, do you think Ryo dodging these light looking arrows can work as a "possibly speed of light"?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Weapons made of light (even as statements) don't qualify, nah, not without substantial evidence- something can be made of light but not move as a whole at light speed.

The properties displayed here definitely make me lean very strongly towards "no".

 

[Tomfer]

Worth a shot.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Worth a shot.

always is