Anui-El vs M─üra

[JackJoyce]

If the members cannot comprehend the philosophical and other aspects (hax) of 1-A battles then there's no point in this discussion

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

checked vote count?

 

[Paul_Frank]

If the members cannot comprehend the philosophical and other aspects (hax) of 1-A battles then there's no point in this discussion

It's not that they can't comprehend them it's that it literally does not matter. The ap difference is all that matters so unless you equalize ap there is no fight between 1-As

 

[Ravenous4th]

@JackJoyce

Even though these beings are usually beyond any metrics we usually use

1-A fights still be debated mainly in 2 ways

1. Debate the philosophical ideas they represent, their core concept, why one would triumph the other. In order to do so, you must equalize AP, which is not what most people do, but if we can somehow manage, then we might get an actual debate. <- not what we're doing.

2. Debate their standings within their respective beyond-dimensional metaphysical hierarchy; their degrees of transcendence. AKA Metaphysical analogue of "muh powahlevel", hax is never taken into account in this case. <- what we're doing

The latter is seemingly more preferable for most people as it is currently the most reliable (?) method, but is bland, dumb, pointless and uses circular logic, like First Witch said.

Having said all that, I don't see this thread going anywhere.

It's not because no one can comprehend them, it's just that no one cares enough to even debate it out.

@Jim

Are you serious? Voting in 1-A matches?

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

Even though these beings are usually beyond any metrics we usually use
1-A fights can mainly go 2 ways.

1. Debate the philosophical ideas they represent, their core concept, why one would triumph the other. In order to do so, you must equalize AP, which is not what most people do, but if we can somehow manage, then we might get an actual debate.

2. Debate their standings within their respective beyond-dimensional metaphysical hierarchy; their degrees of transcendence. AKA Metaphysical analogue of "muh powahlevel"

The latter is seemingly more preferable for most people, but is bland, dumb, pointless and uses circular logic, like First Witch said.

@Jim

Are you serious? Voting in 1-A matches?

Nah due both it's base your AP and his haxes.

then don't try break Rules.

 

[Ravenous4th]

Hax what? Hax in 1-A matches? Breaking the rules?

I.. I don't even know how to respond...

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

are you'ren't that expect starts it's SBA.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Turning philosophical statements and theological concepts into RPG number stat crunching measuring matches makes me sick in my stomach.

Shin Megami Tensei

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

OOF

 

[BleedingPeach]

Well, since the power thread revision was applied, this fight is a stomp in Anu's favor. Besides, Anu's complexity is far superior to Hajun. Even if the upgrade for Hajun is applied... I don't think he would be able to "destroy" Anu.

 

[Asriel77]

When anui el stomps now lmao

 

[PsychoWarper]

The Masada Tier Revison hasnt even started, and Masada especially the Shinza Gods are still banned from matches.

 

[Asriel77]

I doubt any of the tiering revisions would make it as high as anuiel.

Coming from someone who scales it periodically

 

[PsychoWarper]

There has been talk of High 1-A Throneless Hajun and if that happened this would be incon but theres no point in discussing this since the tier revision hasnt happened and also Masada is literally match banned atm.

 

[Asriel77]

Ik where the high 1A scaling comes from. This is the same wiki where im against all the downplay on alot of characters. Im saying that wouldnt put it anywhere as near as anuiel