Anos Voldigoad vs Xue Ying🔥

[Robo432343]

Xue Ying is in his Origin Birth Key
Anos is in his Great Spirit Arc/Jiordal Arc
SBA
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guys help me i dont know what keys to use if this one does not work

 

[Robo432343]

hope this aint a stomp

 

[Planck69]

Does Anos have layers?

 

[Robo432343]

Does Anos have layers?

not accepted layers

 

[Robo432343]

this might be incon because Anos can't bypass immortality type 9

 

[Robo432343]

bump

 

[Lycoris4812]

Might be an incon? Anos can't negate Immortality type 9 rn and Xue Ying doesn't have anything against Mid Godly Resurrection.

 

[Robo432343]

Might be an incon? Anos can't negate Immortality type 9 rn and Xue Ying doesn't have anything against Mid Godly Resurrection.

Yeah incon

 

[Godsatoshi23]

Seems like incon to me

 

[REX9097]

Isn't Xue Ying's EE are beyond Mid-Godly? So shouldn't be this is stomp!?

Existence Erasure (Via Black Gourd, whose ripples can reduce those they strike into nothingness.[80] Has comprehended the Dao of Slaughter, allowing him to turn everything around him for hundreds of billions of kilometers to nothingness with a thought[81])

 

[Godsatoshi23]

Isn't Xue Ying's EE are beyond Mid-Godly? So shouldn't be this is stomp!?

You can't assume that EE by default can erase soul too. Similarly, it cannot be assumed to negate Mid-Godly resurrection or High-Godly healing unless explicitly demonstrated. It is limited by to its feat.
From EE page:

This ability's destructive power is not absolute, and one should not assume that it can erase the soul by default.

And also, Anos can resist EE on a CM 1 level. So, yeah it doesn't matter.

Edit: Also, I think we are using True god key, right?

 

[Planck69]

You can't assume that EE by default can erase soul too. Similarly, it cannot be assumed to negate Mid-Godly resurrection or High-Godly healing unless explicitly demonstrated. It is limited by to its feat.
From EE page:

And also, Anos can resist EE on a CM 1 level. So, yeah it doesn't matter.

Edit: Also, I think we are using True god key, right?

Xue Ying can definitely erase the soul, considering this can kill other True Gods, who have Low-Godly regeneration.

Really, I'm surprised Void God wasn't used. It's also Low 2-C but Xue Ying has Mid-Godly and Mid-Godly negation in that key.

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

You can't assume that EE by default can erase soul too. Similarly, it cannot be assumed to negate Mid-Godly resurrection or High-Godly healing unless explicitly demonstrated. It is limited by to its feat.
From EE page:

And also, Anos can resist EE on a CM 1 level. So, yeah it doesn't matter.

Doesn't Anos also have High-Godly on top of this?

 

[Robo432343]

Really, I'm surprised Void God wasn't used. It's also Low 2-C but Xue Ying has Mid-Godly and Mid-Godly negation in that key.

i was scared to use that key because i thought people would say its unfair for Anos because Xue Ying has 2-C mirage world stuff

but looking at it again its probably best to use it, changed

 

[Godsatoshi23]

i was scared to use that key because i thought people would say its unfair for Anos because Xue Ying has 2-C mirage world stuff

but looking at it again its probably best to use it, changed

Even with that key, it would still be incon, as Xue Ying is still unable to negate High Godly healing.

 

[Robo432343]

Why heal when there is Venuz

 

[Planck69]

Wait, Anos doesn't resist Information Manipulation (Type 2) from what I can see. Something Xue Ying has passively and is the foundation for his powers as a True God and beyond.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Don't know jack about either except for a few things about Xue due to a previous match. That said, where does the whole info type 2 come from? I'm honestly not seeing it from the scans, so I guess it's from other keys?

 

[Planck69]

Don't know jack about either except for a few things about Xue due to a previous match. That said, where does the whole info type 2 come from? I'm honestly not seeing it from the scans, so I guess it's from other keys?

It's in the other profile, last key. Scans come from Swallowed Star, another novel within the same setting.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

and Xue Ying doesn't have anything against Mid Godly Resurrection

Anos has High Godly regeneration

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

If Ying can't negate High Godly then this is an stomp

 

[SYPHe5D]

Wasn’t that high godly regeneration based on a spell that needs activation first or no ?

 

[Planck69]

If Ying can't negate High Godly then this is an stomp

Is that not something he sets up?

Though, not like it matters. Xue Ying's main powers are rooted in something Anos apparently doesn't resist. So he can just be mind controlled on a whim or something.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Wasn’t that high godly regeneration based on a spell that needs activation first or no ?

Can activate even if he's erased anyways

 

[SYPHe5D]

Is that not something he sets up?

Though, not like it matters. Xue Ying's main powers are rooted in something Anos apparently doesn't resist. So he can just be mind controlled on a whim or something.

Also correctly if I’m wrong, but can’t Xue just seal him away ? He doesn’t have to negate his regen

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Is that not something he sets up?

Though, not like it matters. Xue Ying's main powers are rooted in something Anos apparently doesn't resist. So he can just be mind controlled on a whim or something.

Anos does set it up, it's something he can use even if his concept it's been destroyed

But yeah, Anos won't likely be able to resist what was stated above

 

[ashen]

Anos does set it up, it's something he can use even if his concept it's been destroyed

But yeah, Anos won't likely be able to resist what was stated above

Nuh huh ?

Not only that he need to cast it before receiving the attack but he also need to KNOW the attack.

Otherwise he would not be able to cast it since he would have no « origin » as a base for « agronemt ».

 

[Lycoris4812]

Anos has High Godly regeneration

*Healing

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Nuh huh ?

Not only that he need to cast it before receiving the attack but he also need to KNOW the attack.

Otherwise he would not be able to cast it since he would have no « origin » as a base for « agronemt ».

And if I recall correctly, Agronemt itself has to go to the past via the use of Rivide, as shown here
But there's also the fact that Rivide itself has a limit of only going one hundred years into the past, as stated here.

Tho the scan mentions another spell called "Revalon" which can go back in time by 2000 years, but that's pretty much it.

Basically, this means if Xue decides to nuke the entire Space-time, Anos won't be able to use the spell, since there'll be no past then. And from Xue's profile, specifically his first key, it seems he can indeed do exactly that

Universe level+ (Can fight and slay Void Gods with his sheer power.[53] An Origin Birth Void God's power is equivalent to the first level of the Black Gourd[54], with the Black Gourd he wields possessing infinite strength, and has an existence on the level of the Sun Star within it, whose laws and power rival that of the greater cosmos.[55] The presence of Xue Ying's mere leg took up the entire River of Time[56]), higher with the Black Gourd (The second level of the Black Gourd can destroy the entire cosmos with its power and can easily kill Origin Birth Void Gods[57])

Tho Anos's part is only from a quick wiki search on his fandom wiki for the spells and their limitations, so idk if Anos can ignore that or something.... [feel free to correct me on that, with scans, ofc]

 

[Robo432343]

But Venuz gives Anos high godly regen

 

[Tatsumi504]

Wait, Anos doesn't resist Information Manipulation (Type 2) from what I can see. Something Xue Ying has passively and is the foundation for his powers as a True God and beyond.

Does it do something specific or it's just the foundation for his powers? If it's the latter, Anos still resists his abilities also, does ying have layers?

 

[Godsatoshi23]

And if I recall correctly, Agronemt itself has to go to the past via the use of Rivide, as shown here

Correction, Anos send Agronemt to the future not the past.

 

[Planck69]

Does it do something specific or it's just the foundation for his powers? If it's the latter, Anos still resists his abilities also, does ying have layers?

He passively warps reality into a domain around him based on said Daos, which are Type 1 concepts and Type 2 information. The Dao of Slaughter erases everything in his vicinity, Mirage allows him to control others via illusions, and will illusion into reality, etc. And I'm not seeing how Anos still resists? All his Dao abilities are him just using his Daos (Info Type 2, CM Type 1, and law hax), that's what's meant when I say foundation.

He has layers but most of them have yet to be evaluated. At minimum he can hax other True Gods, who resist use of the law of the world as seen in his prior key, so at least 1 layer so far.

 

[Robo432343]

i don't think resists info manip type 2 its more like he can bypass it with venuzdonoa

 

[Planck69]

i don't think resists info manip type 2 its more like he can bypass it with venuzdonoa

.....How???? I've looked at the profile, I've not seen anything indicating it can do that.

 

[Robo432343]

.....How???? I've looked at the profile, I've not seen anything indicating it can do that.

because venuzdonoa can destroy anything in the verse
that would include info type 2 that exist in the verse

 

[Planck69]

because venuzdonoa can destroy anything in the verse
that would include info type 2 that exist in the verse

Checked again and saw it, yeah. Though, this doesn't really answer how he deals with the passive domain himself. Other Immeasurable beings get passived by Xue Ying as well.

Edit: Does the sword have layers?

 

[Godsatoshi23]

Checked again and saw it, yeah. Though, this doesn't really answer how he deals with the passive domain himself. Other Immeasurable beings get passived by Xue Ying as well.

Because I think venuzdonoa also passively destroy anything that intents to harm its wielder.

Edit: Does the sword have layers?

There are layers but they are not yet accepted in a thread.

 

[Tatsumi504]

He passively warps reality into a domain around him based on said Daos, which are Type 1 concepts and Type 2 information. The Dao of Slaughter erases everything in his vicinity, Mirage allows him to control others via illusions, and will illusion into reality, etc. And I'm not seeing how Anos still resists? All his Dao abilities are him just using his Daos (Info Type 2, CM Type 1, and law hax), that's what's meant when I say foundation.

I may not remember correctly but I feel you, deagonx, dereck, etc. were in a thread we had back then that resisting powers coming from stuff like CM 1 isn't the same as resisting CM 1 and vice versa. If the IM 2 doesn't do something specific to his information then I'd say he can very well resist. He doesn't need to resist information manipulation 2 directly.
Magic too is also IM 2 so Anos does resist powers that come from that too.

He has layers but most of them have yet to be evaluated. At minimum he can hax other True Gods, who resist use of the law of the world as seen in his prior key, so at least 1 layer so far.

Same in this case. No need to discuss layers then.

 

[Planck69]

I may not remember correctly but I feel you, deagonx, dereck, etc. were in a thread we had back then that resisting powers coming from stuff like CM 1 isn't the same as resisting CM 1 and vice versa. If the IM 2 doesn't do something specific to his information then I'd say he can very well resist. He doesn't need to resist information manipulation 2 directly.
Magic too is also IM 2 so Anos does resist powers that come from that too.

Something like that, assuming you just have say, fire manip whose origin happens to be from a universal concept. Xue is just wielding his Daos directly to cause an effect, create a domain, etc.

Same in this case. No need to discuss layers then.

Hm, I see.

How does Anos handle Mid-Godly negation without the chance to activate his Healing?