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He held his own against toppo and jiren and also damaged anilaza an arguably Low 2-C. A lot of people want his barriers to be low 2-C but that makes little sense. When toppo used his hakai, it took him 5 seconds to erase android 17 attack as initially it was equal. Also his barrier took multiple hits from toppo before cracking, but it's ignored that he himself without his barriers took multiple hits without too much Injury, to the point where later he took a blast from jiren who goku and vegeta were smart enough to not take head on, and all 17 did was pant he was just fine. Which is why I think his barriers being low 2-C makes no sense. Also he blocked an attack from toppo with literally no injuries. also it should be worth noting, 17 doesn't have transformations, so it's not easy to tell how much power he's actually using same with jiren.
In the recent episode.. I have an argument as to why it should be accepted. First reason you can use, you can simply say he broke his limits, goku broke his because of jiren and so did vegeta, it wouldn't be surprising if android 17 did fighting toppo, someone really tough. Second argument you can use. Anime chars suddenly be far weaker than their opponent, but because they thought about family or others they suddenly decrease that power gap. Actually, every main character from all amines do that( about 80). Fairy is literally all that as well. Also, it's not an outlier if he has consistent good performance against low 2-C opponents. Wasn't vegata inferior to toppo at first? the all of a sudden, trunks, Burma, I'm stronger than you now toppo. See? Anime chars randomly break their limits when people's lives are on the line. Also, post UI goku is at Low 2-C, but anilaza overpowered him and everyone else. so that should make him Low 2-C, which would support even further that 17 is low 2-C. 17 did good against a low 2-C, a stronger 2-C and an arguably Low 2-C, Low 2-C is pretty consistent if you ask me.
You can argue that 17 only went all out against anilaza and jiren, other than that I'm pretty sure he never even went all out. He's a serious type but at the same time he isn't, proved when he " studied " that one 3-A girl he beat instead of beating her. " you pretended to be weak?!" Cause he was playing around. Which would support him not trying all the time. If 17 is 3-A post UI goku should be 3-A. Also in goku black saga, goku was weaker than black, but he thought about his family and suddenly he was superior to both. android 17 wants his universe to survive so he broke his limits to match jiren. also he clashed with jiren, and his shirt ripped. Another reason I don't see only his barriers being low 2-C.
In the recent episode.. I have an argument as to why it should be accepted. First reason you can use, you can simply say he broke his limits, goku broke his because of jiren and so did vegeta, it wouldn't be surprising if android 17 did fighting toppo, someone really tough. Second argument you can use. Anime chars suddenly be far weaker than their opponent, but because they thought about family or others they suddenly decrease that power gap. Actually, every main character from all amines do that( about 80). Fairy is literally all that as well. Also, it's not an outlier if he has consistent good performance against low 2-C opponents. Wasn't vegata inferior to toppo at first? the all of a sudden, trunks, Burma, I'm stronger than you now toppo. See? Anime chars randomly break their limits when people's lives are on the line. Also, post UI goku is at Low 2-C, but anilaza overpowered him and everyone else. so that should make him Low 2-C, which would support even further that 17 is low 2-C. 17 did good against a low 2-C, a stronger 2-C and an arguably Low 2-C, Low 2-C is pretty consistent if you ask me.
You can argue that 17 only went all out against anilaza and jiren, other than that I'm pretty sure he never even went all out. He's a serious type but at the same time he isn't, proved when he " studied " that one 3-A girl he beat instead of beating her. " you pretended to be weak?!" Cause he was playing around. Which would support him not trying all the time. If 17 is 3-A post UI goku should be 3-A. Also in goku black saga, goku was weaker than black, but he thought about his family and suddenly he was superior to both. android 17 wants his universe to survive so he broke his limits to match jiren. also he clashed with jiren, and his shirt ripped. Another reason I don't see only his barriers being low 2-C.