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Amy Rose vs Optimus Prime (8-B tourney)
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From what I'm seeing, Optimus Prime scales to 41.3 Tons while Amy scales to 94.2 Tons. Giving Amy a 2.2x AP advantage.
Prime seems to have more and more practical abilities than Amy, but not by a whole lot. Both have martial arts listed under their powers and abilities, but maybe I'd give Amy an advantage of small size making her harder to hit and she has a ton of experience fighting robots and find weak points. She also has vibration manipulation, which might be able to shake Optimus Prime's innards up and cause some type of internal damage, but I'm unsure of how Optimus Prime works.
However, I think Optimus Prime has more practical advantages. Both him and Amy have proficiency in close combat weapons, but Prime is also skilled in long-range weapons. Which also of course give him a range advantage. He also has regeneration but that's not really elaborated on so I'm unsure about it.
I think Prime could win more times than none but would struggle a lot due to AP disadvantage, her small size, and also being a skilled fighter. I may change my mind depending on the arguments presented though.
Prime seems to have more and more practical abilities than Amy, but not by a whole lot. Both have martial arts listed under their powers and abilities, but maybe I'd give Amy an advantage of small size making her harder to hit and she has a ton of experience fighting robots and find weak points. She also has vibration manipulation, which might be able to shake Optimus Prime's innards up and cause some type of internal damage, but I'm unsure of how Optimus Prime works.
However, I think Optimus Prime has more practical advantages. Both him and Amy have proficiency in close combat weapons, but Prime is also skilled in long-range weapons. Which also of course give him a range advantage. He also has regeneration but that's not really elaborated on so I'm unsure about it.
I think Prime could win more times than none but would struggle a lot due to AP disadvantage, her small size, and also being a skilled fighter. I may change my mind depending on the arguments presented though.
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Amy's generally a sort of mix between an agile fighter and heavy bruiser. Depending on how much artillery Optimus has, Amy should be able to reliably evade Optimus' gunfire.
I would say Optimus has a skill advantage, but Amy can at least competently fight alongside Sonic. And Sonic himself is no slouch to battling beings that are well over even Optimus' age.
I'll let people more knowledgeable on Optimus speak on the matter first before casting a vote.
I would say Optimus has a skill advantage, but Amy can at least competently fight alongside Sonic. And Sonic himself is no slouch to battling beings that are well over even Optimus' age.
I'll let people more knowledgeable on Optimus speak on the matter first before casting a vote.
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I didn't even take into consideration that Amy could run out Prime's ammunition. Although I'm completely unaware of how much ammunition he has on him. If she can do that, I do think the advantage actually goes to her due to her smaller more nimble body compared to Prime's larger slightly more clunky body.
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its > 75 tons
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Ah, my mistake. Make that a 1.256x difference.
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I believe it, but I don't see it in his profile, but it's definitely believable. He's also got a lifting strength advantage.
Amy may be able to counter the homing missiles with their Pico Hammer perhaps.
Amy may be able to counter the homing missiles with their Pico Hammer perhaps.
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How good is Optimus at shooting and how good is Amy at dodging or countering projectiles with her hammer?
Because Optimus having grenade launchers and a Ion Blaster is already a very good advantage against Amy's limited range.
What are the achievements of ancient Sonic villains against which Amy has held her own?
Also, it would be nice to have more details about Optimus's senses, regen and immortality, and the last two will help him immensely if the battle ends up being about endurance.
Because Optimus having grenade launchers and a Ion Blaster is already a very good advantage against Amy's limited range.
This is kind of a non-point, since age alone doesn't grant you anything in terms of skill or intelligence. Instead, such ancient characters must have spent their long life training, battling, studying or something.
What are the achievements of ancient Sonic villains against which Amy has held her own?
Also, it would be nice to have more details about Optimus's senses, regen and immortality, and the last two will help him immensely if the battle ends up being about endurance.
ShakeResounding
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Let me rephrase my wording.
Sonic is no slouch to fighting beings that have fought since the very dawn of time (Dark Gaia), machines with years of data dedicated to perfectly countering him and his attack patterns created by Doctor Eggman (Metal Sonic and the Egg Dragoon), and robots who have the collective skill of him and his friends combined alongside countless years of straight war/combat experience from a race of war-mongering robots (Emerl).
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Thanks.
How does that apply to Amy?
Could you be more specific other than "fight competently alongside Sonic"?
How does that apply to Amy?
Could you be more specific other than "fight competently alongside Sonic"?
ShakeResounding
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No problem!
Amy has fought those such as Emerl and Metal Sonic previously, who "scale" to Sonic in skill because they have his skill and then some. It's like some anime-protag bs. Should've specified that more, my bad lol
Amy has fought those such as Emerl and Metal Sonic previously, who "scale" to Sonic in skill because they have his skill and then some. It's like some anime-protag bs. Should've specified that more, my bad lol
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For the sake of their being a vote, I'm leaning more towards Optimus Prime. The difference in AP isn't significant and Optimus has a far larger arsenal of weapons compared to Amy. Not to mention Optimus Prime's range advantage which he could certainly take advantage of. Given SBA is used, they start as far away as their range is effective. That gives him time to unload numerous attacks on Amy before she can approach.
However, Amy does have advantages that I'll acknowledge. She upscales from Metal Sonic's superior lifting strength (comparative to Optimus Prime), albeit only by a tiny bit. Of course the Metal Sonic I'm referring to was in bad condition, not him at his best, she certainly doesn't scale to any of his lifting strength feats over Class M. This means she'll be winning any grappling that may occur and can even use that to her advantage to land an attack with her hammer which should do noticeable damage given her superior AP.
I'll assume the speed was equalized because it was before Amy's upgrade. Because if we unequalize speed now, it'll be an absolute no-diff blitz in Amy's favor.
However, I think Optimus Prime's advantages are more practical currently, so I'll vote for him. But I'll keep my ears open for others' input.
For the sake of their being a vote, I'm leaning more towards Optimus Prime. The difference in AP isn't significant and Optimus has a far larger arsenal of weapons compared to Amy. Not to mention Optimus Prime's range advantage which he could certainly take advantage of. Given SBA is used, they start as far away as their range is effective. That gives him time to unload numerous attacks on Amy before she can approach.
However, Amy does have advantages that I'll acknowledge. She upscales from Metal Sonic's superior lifting strength (comparative to Optimus Prime), albeit only by a tiny bit. Of course the Metal Sonic I'm referring to was in bad condition, not him at his best, she certainly doesn't scale to any of his lifting strength feats over Class M. This means she'll be winning any grappling that may occur and can even use that to her advantage to land an attack with her hammer which should do noticeable damage given her superior AP.
I'll assume the speed was equalized because it was before Amy's upgrade. Because if we unequalize speed now, it'll be an absolute no-diff blitz in Amy's favor.
However, I think Optimus Prime's advantages are more practical currently, so I'll vote for him. But I'll keep my ears open for others' input.
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Isn't Amy much smaller than Optimus? He would have a hard time hitting her since she's very agile and can use her small size to her advantage. Also considering she scales to High Hypersonic speeds, I'm pretty sure she could dodge his attacks. She also fought against Team Dark in heroes, which is canon to IDW (with the help of Cream and Big, but still), and Omega has explosive attacks as well
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Amy is small true, but from little I know about Transformers, Optimus Prime is very coordinated and accurate, and fairly fast despite his size (Heck, he has acrobatics and Martial Arts on his profile). Not to mention, with assuming him having homing missiles is true, that only makes it easier to mark Amy.
He also has a regeneration factor going for him that would allow him to recover any lasting damage Amy might've caused (assuming she can).
One thing I think that should also be taken into consideration, is Optimus Prime faster as a vehicle than on foot? If so, it might count as a 'speed amp' of sorts that would bypass the equalized speed (I presume it will be equalized given the speed was unequalized back when they had relatively equal speed) which would give him another edge.
He also has a regeneration factor going for him that would allow him to recover any lasting damage Amy might've caused (assuming she can).
One thing I think that should also be taken into consideration, is Optimus Prime faster as a vehicle than on foot? If so, it might count as a 'speed amp' of sorts that would bypass the equalized speed (I presume it will be equalized given the speed was unequalized back when they had relatively equal speed) which would give him another edge.
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