American Gods Outlier edition 2.0

[TataHakai]

Well, i mean i don't really agree with the feat but if we're accepting it then might as well go the whole distance, i can do the edits myself i just thought i should make a CRT and get some views beforehand, if anyone even watches this show

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blogarkanine/American_Gods:_Zorya_Picks_Up_The_Moo

What's her face moved the moon and it resulted in 5-A tiering

However, she moved the moon at mach 14,280.87

So everyone who scales off her needs to be upgraded to Sub Relativistic speed since we do scale speed off how fast people can move things, i think, maybe just attack speed.

Here's all the profiles that need to be changed

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mr._Wednesday

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Easter

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Zorya_Polunochnaya https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Czernobog_(American_Gods) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Zorya_Vechernyaya

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Technical_Boy (Technical boy also needs to be upgraded to 5-A? He's stated to be stronger than Mr.Wednesday who is Likely 5-A)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Media (Same story as Technical boy) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Vulcan_(American_Gods)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mr._Wood (same story as above)

 

[Antvasima]

You should preferably ask Matthew to comment here.

 

[TataHakai]

Alright, done.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Hellbeast1]

If I may throw my hat in the ring i'd say this is fairly valid.

On the subject of the tiering I'd say keep it at unknown, we have no idea what feats the New Gods can do (since they don't really have stories attributed to them and thus don't have many feats)

I'll have a look at the 5-A thing later (like you I'm not too convinced)

 

[TataHakai]

If we're keeping it unknown then should the justification for their tiering be changed?

They're unknown yet stronger than Likely 5-A characters, i don't see how that makes sense really.

So we either change their tiering or change the statements of them being stronger characters i guess.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Zorya moving the moon through perspective fuckery is sub relativistic to the moon, but slow to her, and doesn't scale to reactions. I strongly disagree with using it.

We have absolute no idea how powerful the New Gods really are, so unknown is good.

 

[TataHakai]

But the entire feat uses KE and scales to her abilities, we use the speed of how fast she moved the moon to get 5-A

Also if that's the case we should probably take stuff like this off

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

It's the equivalent to using TK to move the moon. It doesn't seem to anything buy the feat itself.

I already explained why the New Gods should be kept at Unknown.

 

[TataHakai]

It's the equivalent to using TK to move the moon. It doesn't seem to anything buy the feat itself.
I already explained why the New Gods should be kept at Unknown.

Pretty sure we had people like Toneri at Relativistic attack speed prior to the recent upgrades for moving meteors at that speed, why wouldn't the same situation apply here? I'm pretty sure there are other characters who scale off stuff like that too

I didn't disagree with that Matt, i'm saying if we don't know how strong they are then stuff like this should be taken off

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Did Toneri ever use Telekinesis to throw anything, and people react to those thrown things? If not then I don't think TK moving speed scales. As for Zorya, it is even worse. From her perspective she moved her arm at like 1m/s, to the moon it was sub-rel.

But that's not incorrect? They are much stronger, blatantly so.

 

[Antvasima]

I agree with Matthew about the speed.

 

[Antvasima]

It is probably also safest to wait and see how powerful the new gods are.

 

[Hellbeast1]

For the speed thing MCU Thanos has the meteor thing listed as a justification for speed.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Only for Attack Speed with TK.

 

[Hellbeast1]

I know that's what I mean

 

[TataHakai]

"We have absolute no idea how powerful the New Gods really are, so unknown is good."

"But that's not incorrect? They are much stronger, blatantly so."

Matt what? You're literally saying we don't know how powerful they are then saying they are much stronger in the next comment, i'm confused.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

We know that they are much stronger then the Old Gods, but I feel slapping on a "At least 5-A" is lazy. We know nothing of their capabilities beyond "Old Gods have no means of fighting them".

 

[TataHakai]

Welp that makes more sense than what's on their profiles right now

Are we still disagreeing on the speed due to perspective by the way? It probably would just be "Sub relativistic Attack speed"

 

[Kepekley23]

People scale to Toneri because they dodged his TK'd lunar fragments, don't bring him up here.

 

[TataHakai]

I'm talking about before that Kep, his speed used to be "Relativistic attack speed" because of how fast he moved the meteors.