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Alex Mercer vs Carnage. Is this fair now?

Carnage has the ap advantage and all, but Mercer can absorb him via the Black Light Virus.

I vote Mercer if infecting Carnage is his go-to thing. If not, I vote Carnage since he would overpower him due to his AP.
 
Question, has the likes of people like Spiderman or other symbiotes resisted getting absored by symbiotes like Venom and Carnage? If so I doubt Alex Mercer could do it to someone this much stronger than him.
 
Carnage doesn't absorb at that level, he only fuses at that level based on one comic from what I can recall (and he didn't even do that against an enemy, so it's not even shown to be used in combat). He doesn't even use fusionism in combat by fusing with his enemies that much. if at all, thus Carnage's ability to fuse with his target's atoms has little to no factor in this fight.

And Carnage's bonding doesn't make up for the fact that his Regenerationn is merely Low-High, thus he can die from any type of attacks that reduces him to anything far above atoms as long as the scale of damage is greater than Low-High scale of Regenerationn.
 
He never uses atomic-scale fusionism in combat from what I can recall, so that is little to no factor in an actual Versus match. As far as I can see, that might as well be a combat inapplicable ability which the fact that I don't recall ever using fusionism in combat in such manners, especially to bond with the target's atoms.

Plus, Mercer doesn't even need to absorb Carnage at close range when he can just end Carnage at a distance. He can just unleash some viral gasses, get Carnage's molecules infected by the gasses, and have Carnage either die or become a mindless infected under Mercer's control depending on what Mercer's wills the infection to do (Carnage's atomic-level fusionism, which he hasn't shown to to use in combat from what I can recall, doesn't matter when his Low-High Regenerationn makes it that his very molecules are affected to the point that Carnage can't retaliate or recover).
 
He has some reactive evolution as well. And has mind controlled people like the Silver Surfer who resists absorbstion from the likes of Mephisto and mind controlled people like Captain America in the Carnage USA comics. If his absorbtion was so good, virtually every fight in the games would have been over in a far faster rate and none of them are Carnage level of power. Also Carnage can absorb other symbiotes pretty easily aside from the likes of lads like Venom at least for a while iirc and Mercer's pretty much a walking symbiote.
 
Not Icarus said:
He has some reactive evolution as well. And has mind controlled people like the Silver Surfer who resists absorbstion from the likes of Mephisto and mind controlled people like Captain America in the Carnage USA comics. If his absorbtion was so good, virtually every fight in the games would have been over in a far faster rate and none of them are Carnage level of power. Also Carnage can absorb other symbiotes pretty easily aside from the likes of lads like Venom at least for a while iirc and Mercer's pretty much a walking symbiote.
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first carnages mind control heavly depends on biological factors not quite soul purity stuff such as mephisto meaning not much is gona happen to mister no organs mercer over there. Second where exactly did you take the whole absorbs through fusionism thing? i have never hear or read anything about that.

also there is still nothing that stop mercer form unleashing black light(that takes about 5 secons to turn a preson into a zombie) and since its a malecular level thing carnages low high ain't helping in the slightest
 
A single touch from Carnage can infect and posses a person and hasn't he shown to be devouring symbiotes better as Dark Carnage? Klyntars are capable of absorbing other mass into their own selves.
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That shit isn't working on Mercer for reasons already explained above, plus this isn't Dark Carnage which is a different symbiote altogether.
 
Also shouldn't Carnage already have Mind Manipulation and Biological Manipulation at base? And why not? He absorbs people and fuses with them by the atom, Mercer is only matter levels of absorbtion. Him easily absorbing Carnage who's a far more powerful foe than anyone else in the Prototype universe sounds unreasonable.
 
Carnage doesn't have atomic level Absorption. That was debunked ages ago in his Downgrade thread and he doesn't resist Mercer's absorption Hax.
 
Absorption (Can become one with every atom of a person that he bonds with).

That doesn't sound like absorption, that sounds like Fusionism.
 
Carnage also still doesn't resist Biological Hax on Blacklights Level or the Mindhax that comes with it's hive mind.
 
But it literally says absorbtion, you can achieve fusionism via absorbtion too. It doesn't make sense that it's not.
 
That was a leftover from a revision I carried out long ago. Pretty much, the only reason his "absorption is that potent" is because it was associated with him bonding (not absorbing) with its host's every atom.

Fallaciously, that was correlated with upgrades to other abilities. This lead to him having 'High' regen and Atomic level Absorption without never having displayed either ever. Miiiiight pickup the revision thread again sometime seeing as I have a lot of spare time. Anywho, I'm gone now.
 
So what's the most likely scenario here, since Carnage has a better chance of absorbing him via better strength, and I'm not sure how fast he'll pull that move out against him but regardless I personally still vote Carnage for better ap and the possibility of absorbing Mercer.
 
Probably not very well considering it's feats kinda suck compared to Mercer's own Reactive Evolution.
 
Uh, I'm pretty sure Base Carnage doesn't have the AP needed to get past Mercer's Low-High Regenerationn, so I doubt that's even a factor. I'm not sure if vapourisation via AP is confirmed to be a thing in Versus matches for characters who hasn't explicitly shown such in their series, but I imagine Carnage's High 8-C isn't enough of an AP advantage on Alex Mercer's likely soon-to-be 8-C to bypass regen.

And I've already made my points about Mercer gassing, so my stance should is quite obvious here.
 
DeathNoodles said:
Mercer's likely soon-to-be 8-C to bypass regen.
And I've already made my points about Mercer gassing, so my stance should is quite obvious here.
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not just likely but confirmed at this point we are just working out the kinks of scaling at this point

so this key will be at least 8C in the near future
 
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