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Aleph omega

No tiers, it's like saying 7 is what Tier, infinite is what Tier, which doesn't really make any sense at all since it'd be dependant on what is the object we're having right now, first. But say, it is the number of dimensions then yeah it is 1-A+, for universes it would be High 1-B.
 
No tiers, it's like saying 7 is what Tier, infinite is what Tier, which doesn't really make any sense at all since it'd be dependant on what is the object we're having right now, first. But say, it is the number of dimensions then yeah it is 1-A+, for universes it would be High 1-B.
It would be 1-A+ even if the metric is the number of universes
 

Aleph-one symbol is
{\displaystyle \,\Omega \;.}
right ?

 
Depending on the object you're counting

If it's layers of existence, 1A+
If it's universes, high 1B
 
1-A+ is the correct answer as 1-A equates to the nelph two and higher, and placing higher steps than that an infinite number of times up to aleph omega would give you 1-A+
 
No lol aleph 2 is 1A when it's the amount of layers of existence, the OP never specified the object

Aleph omega layers of existence are 1A+
Universes are high 1B
 
How so? Aleph 0 is 2A
Aleph 1 is low 1C
And Go on until aleph omega which would be high 1B
Who said 1-B layers are alephs?
Aleph 1 universes are low 1-C because Aleph 1 is the size of the continuum with continuum hypothesis. Basically 5D has Aleph 1 snapshots of 4D things. Similarly 6D had Aleph 1 snapshots of 5D things, aka Aleph 1 x Aleph 1 snapshots of 4D things. And so on for any number of dimensions. Aleph 1 x Aleph 1 x Aleph 1.... don't reach aleph 2 unless the number of terms themselves are aleph 1, which is why low 1-A is a higher aleph(aleph 1 dimensions which means aleph 1 terms in the product so overall Aleph 1^Aleph 1 or Aleph 2 in terms of universes)

Basically switching from dimensions to universes only makes the difference of one aleph, and aleph omega is(in a simplified way) aleph infinity, so the difference of one aleph being displaced won't matter.
 
Who said 1-B layers are alephs?
Aleph 1 universes are low 1-C because Aleph 1 is the size of the continuum with continuum hypothesis. Basically 5D has Aleph 1 snapshots of 4D things. Similarly 6D had Aleph 1 snapshots of 5D things, aka Aleph 1 x Aleph 1 snapshots of 4D things. And so on for any number of dimensions. Aleph 1 x Aleph 1 x Aleph 1.... don't reach aleph 2 unless the number of terms themselves are aleph 1, which is why low 1-A is a higher aleph(aleph 1 dimensions which means aleph 1 terms in the product so overall Aleph 1^Aleph 1 or Aleph 2 in terms of universes)

Basically switching from dimensions to universes only makes the difference of one aleph, and aleph omega is(in a simplified way) aleph infinity, so the difference of one aleph being displaced won't matter.
Hmm, okay thanks
 
How so? Aleph 0 is 2A
Aleph 1 is low 1C
And Go on until aleph omega which would be high 1B
It might be confusing since the Tiering System FAQ doesn't really explain the reasons why aleph-2 space would be strictly larger than aleph-1 regardless of what its elements are (no disrespect to Ultima).

Beth-1 (aleph-1 equivalent in continuum hypothesis) already defines the Euclidean space of R^n or say, dimensional spaces in layman's terms, that each of them contains beth-1 snapshots of their lower dimensions, respectively. Like beth-1 points makes up length (R^1), beth-1 lengths makes up width (R^2), beth-1 widths makes up height (R^3), and so on. Their cardinality won't increase whatsoever so more dimensions you're stacking because in order to reach R^R, you need beth-2. So therefore, aleph-2 space is Low 1-A aka aleph-1 dimensions equivalent.

Isn't that what you're trying to say, @Darksmash?
 
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