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Aleister vs Quantum Man
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So, like, it uses probability manipulation to assure victory against the Aleister in its range, absorbs them, and uses whatever magic they did to go to the 11th dimension and slaps that Aleister too.
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I am sure we treat any smurf magic, even if simple, to be immune to be copied, or even learned, to someone from a verse that does not reach it's tier.
Now, how good is the probability hax not counting the new information?
And afaik, Aleister does not have many wincons, tho he can incap with the BBB, and if he goes to 11D, i think the Archetype Controller can be used to mind hax (it seems to not be usable mid-combat, but in the 11 dimension he would have time to use it).
Now, how good is the probability hax not counting the new information?
And afaik, Aleister does not have many wincons, tho he can incap with the BBB, and if he goes to 11D, i think the Archetype Controller can be used to mind hax (it seems to not be usable mid-combat, but in the 11 dimension he would have time to use it).
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He doesn't copy or learn it. He absorbs Aleister into himself. He is the sum of millions of entire timelines and all of their inhabitants, and isn't technically one true entity. If he gets to absorb Aleister, he would be Aleister.
It allows him to choose any physically possible event, even if widely incredible, such as surviving until the heat death of the universe, or a perfectly sane man slamming his head against a table until they die.
But, how would he incap or mindhax a person with infinite alternate selves though?
It allows him to choose any physically possible event, even if widely incredible, such as surviving until the heat death of the universe, or a perfectly sane man slamming his head against a table until they die.
But, how would he incap or mindhax a person with infinite alternate selves though?
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Pfft, he has type 3 Acausality? I mean, this key only says it has a weaker version of the previous keys' powers, it does not explain much of what was missed or just lowered, and since it seems the Radioactive man was able to stagger an avatar with radiation, i thought he wouldn't use Acausality here.
Well, he can't really incap all of them at the same time, but one body would be possible since the Big Bang has much more radiation than the Radioactive man can produce (unless his profile is also outdated), and the mind hax is done by creating/destroying type 4 concepts.
Well, he can't really incap all of them at the same time, but one body would be possible since the Big Bang has much more radiation than the Radioactive man can produce (unless his profile is also outdated), and the mind hax is done by creating/destroying type 4 concepts.
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Yeah, it has both type 9 immortality and type 3 Acausality. Post update it will also be omnipresent across all time in all of the multiverse, but that's neither here nor there, for now.
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How the hell did the Radioactive man fight something like that? In this case, there is nothing Aleister can do currently.
Also, the Crowley Hazards don't have knowledge about the "11D teleport" as far as we know, since each one is an Aleister that mastered different types of magic, so fusing with one wouldn't really grant any information from the original. Which reminds me, Toaru having a single universe sucks, Aleister would have type 3 himself if not for that.
Also, the Crowley Hazards don't have knowledge about the "11D teleport" as far as we know, since each one is an Aleister that mastered different types of magic, so fusing with one wouldn't really grant any information from the original. Which reminds me, Toaru having a single universe sucks, Aleister would have type 3 himself if not for that.
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The Quantum Man was never challanged truly.
Long story short, it perceives infinite realities, including all possible deaths, and all possible pleasures, always, forever. Nothing matters to it, so it just kind of does things to go through the motions, not because it particularly cares.
It made an avatar to fight there, but if it really wanted it it could have absorbed the whole universe and be done with it. It just had no desire to do that.
Long story short, it perceives infinite realities, including all possible deaths, and all possible pleasures, always, forever. Nothing matters to it, so it just kind of does things to go through the motions, not because it particularly cares.
It made an avatar to fight there, but if it really wanted it it could have absorbed the whole universe and be done with it. It just had no desire to do that.
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Why did he even do an avatar tho? His profile says he did that to avoid destroying reality, but if his avatars are as powerful as him, wouldn't it be faster to just think that guy out of existence? Or is Mortebianca a verse where tier 1 gods like to do "normal" human things?
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Long story very short, his motivation at the beginning of the story is to stop a mysterious being from devouring all of reality. Using his powers too much causes realities to collapse and strengthen this being, so he prefers not to do it.
In an attempt to grow stronger, he makes infinite clones if himself and makes them do everything to see if there is any way to stop the being. One of which is working with the rest of the cast in the story we get to hear of.
Later, after his attempts fail, he just starts absorbing other beings for power. And when that isn't enough, he absorbs stars and Black holes. And then entire realities in a last ditch effort of growing strong enough to stop the being, becoming said creature himself.
In an attempt to grow stronger, he makes infinite clones if himself and makes them do everything to see if there is any way to stop the being. One of which is working with the rest of the cast in the story we get to hear of.
Later, after his attempts fail, he just starts absorbing other beings for power. And when that isn't enough, he absorbs stars and Black holes. And then entire realities in a last ditch effort of growing strong enough to stop the being, becoming said creature himself.
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So his avatars aren't small parts of himself, they are his alternative versions? That makes sense, actually.
When i said "that guy" i was talking about the Radioactive Man, not the big bad guy of the story, tho.
Becoming the big bad at the end is so cliché...
When i said "that guy" i was talking about the Radioactive Man, not the big bad guy of the story, tho.
Becoming the big bad at the end is so cliché...
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True, it is a cliche, though the story itself is more about the horror part than the overarching plot.
The chapter dedicated to how, once you die, you see your life flash before your eyes... including your life flashing in front of your eyes, living through your life over and over until your brain shuts off from the overextertion, had little to do with progressing the plot, but it was just a neat but of horror.
The Quantum Man is just stumbling from one horrible thing to another his whole life.
The chapter dedicated to how, once you die, you see your life flash before your eyes... including your life flashing in front of your eyes, living through your life over and over until your brain shuts off from the overextertion, had little to do with progressing the plot, but it was just a neat but of horror.
The Quantum Man is just stumbling from one horrible thing to another his whole life.
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Yeah, it's not like one would expect from the profile.
