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Alakazam vs Misogi Kumagawa
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Two Option:
- Kuma Infinite Speedblitz and Bookmaker Ala into oblivion (in this case, Precog + Teleport are useless)
- Kuma start with AF and Erase Ala (In this case too, Teleport and Precog are uselss)
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Alakazam has Precog and will likely start out with it.
So Incon?
So Incon?
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The Precog will probably be useless since in one case, he will not see anything except him being sealed without understanding why and the other case, he will see nothing besides a black screen
Logically, he will probably use Teleport but useless in this case (and he will maybe get bokkmaker'd before do that)
Kuma win in most of the case.
Logically, he will probably use Teleport but useless in this case (and he will maybe get bokkmaker'd before do that)
Kuma win in most of the case.
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Kumagawa's Sealing is thought based, not instantaneous or passive like Alakazams is.
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Im pretty sure Kuma stomps. This is a thing most people forget, but Kumagawa has been described as mindless by mind haxers. Just cus he can't be argued to be mindless against 2-A mind hax doesn't mean island level mind hax will work just fine.
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I could be agree if Kuma doesn't use sealing with Infinite speed amp but he use this, that why i said that Precog don't help.Schnee One said:
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An infinite speed amp
That is thought activated
That is thought activated
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Speed is equalized
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Speed amps are okay as long as the opponent is fasterWeeklyBattles said:
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Time hax, so it's still applicable.WeeklyBattles said:
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I know, this doesn't change anything tho.Schnee One said:
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Passive is faster than thought activated
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Obviously
But the passive don't help him in this case
But the passive don't help him in this case
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What's Alakazam's win condition here?
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Exept it does as Alakazam will passively know everything about Misogi and how to perfectly counter it immediately
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Nothing but Mind screw.Firephoenixearl said:
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The only problem is this doesn't help him from getting erased instantanously or Infinite blitz, the only things he can do is mindhax but need to use specifically this ability (and don't rly use it in characters). Passivley know all weakness of the opponent doesn't help you if you are too slow for act.WeeklyBattles said:
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About the mind hax ^^^^Firephoenixearl said:
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@Fire I honestly don't think we can use this tho, it's a bit headcanon without concrete proof.
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@Caus
If Alakazam knows everything about Misogi and exactly what to do
Why won't it?
If Alakazam knows everything about Misogi and exactly what to do
Why won't it?
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He don't know "what to do", he could potentially use Illusion or Stats amp or even Power Null and if with miracle, he use the ability which could potentially put down Kuma, I don't think he would "have the time" to do all this action since firstly, his precog need a Glance, it's not passive and secondly, know the weakness of kuma and chose what ability he'll use is probably more long than just think in Kuma's case
Well, before leaving (and go the the cinema to see Avanger), Voting Kuma for my reason if it isn't a stomp
Well, before leaving (and go the the cinema to see Avanger), Voting Kuma for my reason if it isn't a stomp
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Yes, Alakazam will know what to do, its explicitly stated that Alakazam passively knows the exact things it needs to do to beat an opponent
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http://fanfox.net/manga/medaka_box/v07/c056/1.html#ipg5The Causality said:
There is no real headcannon. Mind Hax didn't work on him, he couldn't read his thoughts. That's as flat as it gets.
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Ugh, too bad i guess xD.
Im too lazy to get another link, it's just the mind reader being unable to read his thoughts, and saying "it's like he has no heart" (since he was talking about emotions there).
Im too lazy to get another link, it's just the mind reader being unable to read his thoughts, and saying "it's like he has no heart" (since he was talking about emotions there).
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Yes, but are those really our standards?
1 mind more = able to break through statement of being mindless?
How many more minds do you need to affect to break through a mindlessness feat?
1 mind more = able to break through statement of being mindless?
How many more minds do you need to affect to break through a mindlessness feat?
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56PaChi2 said:
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After reading through a large portion of Medaka Box, isn't it far more likely for Kumagawa to start by attempting to literally screw Alakazam and use All Fiction to reach that goal instead of just instantly winning? In his fights against Zenkichi, Zenkichi's mom, and the serial killer guy (after he got AF back), he didn't just do those tactics. Plus he prefers to use his hands for All Fiction even though he doesn't have to.
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