Akatsukiverse: General Discussion Thread

[TheShape03]

Iirc in the movie when Yunyun dad was showing how the village fight the DK army, you see a big battle with huge spells flying and one of them looked like a tornado but that could be wrong

I checked, and yes, they were creating tornadoes and large explosions, which is at least High 8-C, but I wonder if I can get a higher number through calculations.

The town stuff happened in the spin off where all the adults destroyed the village tho thats one a bit vague, tho i remember there being some big explosion.

They did it, but it took them a while, and they did it by casting spells nonstop.

Nothing i can do to help except saying that the Megumin one happened in her fight against Arnes and Kazuma is against the Devil King

In Kazuma's case, he simply cast his spell before DK finished chanting his.

 

[Bruh]

They did it, but it took them a while, and they did it by casting spells nonstop.

I see, tho there was this big explosion by Megumins teacher that i wonder can get past 8-B

In Kazuma's case, he simply cast his spell before DK finished chanting his.

Idk if its the same in the LN but the anime show her and Arnes unleashing their spells at the same time and both were shown comparable in speed

 

[Bruh]

Man i cant wait for the anime profiles, i have so many questions and ideas

 

[TheShape03]

I was about to calculate Mitsurugi's feat of bending steel bars in the anime and I realized that the number of bars bent is inconsistent. First there are 5, then 3 (one only slightly bent), and then there are 3 but one of them is broken (this last version is the most consistent because it continues like this throughout the rest of the scene).

What should I do in this case?

 

[ZenchiNo]

I was about to calculate Mitsurugi's feat of bending steel bars in the anime and I realized that the number of bars bent is inconsistent. First there are 5, then 3 (one only slightly bent), and then there are 3 but one of them is broken (this last version is the most consistent because it continues like this throughout the rest of the scene).

What should I do in this case?

"In truly extreme examples, exceptions may apply, and common sense should be used. Ultimately, the most important factor is to choose a scaling method that is appropriate for the particular situation and provides the most accurate and consistent results."

I guess you should just use the last one for this.

 

[Bruh]

Shouldnt the initial instance of the feat be used as that's when it's the clearest and has most attention given to it ?

 

[MidnightDawn1]

Konosuba BD Short story 3

Violent Crimson Stream TL: Cannongerbil Editor: Ulti [Note: This story takes place sometime around season 2, around volume 3-4 ish, so the status quo is a bit different from the more recent volumes…

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I know it’s CG, so I’ll look for the official ver later. But this isn’t too bad. It seems to have taken place not too long after volume 3 but before volume 4 based on Kazuma describing the opponents Megumin has defeated and Heinz wasn’t there.

A spirit of storm strong enough to make heavy rain clouds and typhoons that can wreck Axel and js comparable to the winter shogun.

Obviously it’s all guesswork, but I’m sure the explosive power of Megumin by V17 would be enough to kill the Winter Shogun (General Winter).

Either way, Megumin will get 7-A one day

Edit: in fact, not just assumption scaling just using logical progression. It took the combined assault of YunYuns lightning strike, Wiz’s explosion and then finally Megumin explosion to “take down” the excess mana of that Spirit comparable to the winter shogun.

I don’t think it’s crazy to say that EOS (prolly even earlier too) Megumin explosion is undeniably stronger than whatever combined force we saw from back then. Unlike the other two, she’s been investing all her skill points into making her explosion the strongest there is.

Her explosion being above Wiz’s is canon, and I don’t think it’s debatable if her explosion is stronger than YunYuns lightning strike lmao.

She even surpassed Wolbach and made work of the so called worlds strongest who was using infinite mana from hell (but he calls Megumins the cheater for fighting at a distance ) I don’t think it’s insane to say even if she couldn’t beat the storm spirit / Winter shogun.

She could output a power comparable / superior to the combined assault of those 3 many volumes ago.

Also all advanced magic users (assuming they don’t have already) should also get NPI since it’s confirmed that advanced magic can harm spirits and was the whole reason why YunYun was there in the first place lol.

 

[ShionAH]

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Yo are you making the anime profiles? Do you need help?

 

[TheShape03]

Yo are you making the anime profiles? Do you need help?

Sure, you can help if you want; here are the four sandboxes.

I decided to start working on the anime profiles while I wait for the light novel calculations to be evaluated.

 

[TheShape03]

Speaking of the anime, was the strength stat ever shown to encompass both AP and LS, as in the novel? Otherwise, no one will be able to scale to Mitsurugi's LS in the anime (except probably the God-Tiers)

 

[Bruh]

• In terms of physical feats, the movie final fight have some between Darkness and fused Sylvia, with Sylvia swinging her massive sword around at high speed (K.E and LS) and breaking Wizs ice, Darkness can somewhat clash with her.
• Magic feats mostly happens in the spin off, movie and any scene involving Wiz's freezing which should get far higher result than 8-B considering Kazuma's High 8-C+ feat.
• LS i remeber Darkness clashing with Beldia which crushed the ground beneath them and her lifting the Hydra which is unweighted, the same sort clash happened between her and Sylvia too which aslo cratered the ground.
• Speed we still have to determine whether Lightning magic is MHS+ or not which could scale to Explosion, tho Explosion should still be Supersonic+ for outpacing Beldia (sidenote Beldia should have High 7-C magic dura for surviving Explosion). In the castle raid, Chris reacted to Rain Lightning iirc. I would argue a serious Darkness should downscale from Beldias Supersonic+ feat considering he was impressed with her clashes with him and was even hype for a fight between them which wouldnt make sense if she were orders of magnitude slower than him. Other than that Wiz and Vanir should also scale as they can keep up with fused Sylvia which contained Beldia
• Thats pretty much all i can think of for the anime. Theres also the CD drama but im too lazy for those

 

[Bruh]

Speaking of the anime, was the strength stat ever shown to encompass both AP and LS, as in the novel? Otherwise, no one will be able to scale to Mitsurugi's LS in the anime (except probably the God-Tiers)

I mean Megumin have higher strength stat than Kazuma and can easily grapple with him while Man drained. So is Darkness with her strength stat. I dont think theres any inconsistency so it should be reasonable to assume so

 

[TheShape03]

I would argue a serious Darkness should downscale from Beldias Supersonic+ feat

I'm not sure about that.

 

[Bruh]

Do the Giant Toads and Lizard runners have anime K.E calc since Kazuma can kill both while Aqua got rammed by the later

 

[MidnightDawn1]

Konosuba Yorimichi Vol. 4 Chapter 1: A Lord's Duty!

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Haven’t read it yet and it’s a fan-translation, but Yomirchi 4 first chapter