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Adam vs Gilgamesh

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He would start with it because Adam is 100% capable of one-shotting him. SNI is one helluva drug.
 
From hax actually, ya know like freezing, sheer heat, just plain cutting shit conceptually, the works

If he didn't have limbs or, ya know, was hit by a Low 1-C hit it would incap him.
Hmm, I suppose that will do, but at the same time, there is gonna need a minor update in that regard as while Gil is haxed and OP, I honestly don't remember most of the weapons having the ignoring durability part to them since most of them are nameless and don't have such properties I think. Not too sure on the named NPs Gil has as far as I am aware, they don't exactly ignore regular durability except by piercing his opponents with the said weapons, but I digress.
 
you need to clarify by continue fighting after dying can he move ifs hes shredded apart by danmaku? or looking like a cactus? hes lord of the eyes to evade stuff has a time limit and gil can spam for days.
also consider the distance
 
Hmm, I suppose that will do, but at the same time, there is gonna need a minor update in that regard as while Gil is haxed and OP, I honestly don't remember most of the weapons having the ignoring durability part to them since most of them are nameless and don't have such properties I think. Not too sure on the named NPs Gil has as far as I am aware, they don't exactly ignore regular durability except by piercing his opponents with the said weapons, but I digress.
IIRC even the ones that aren't named retain their different effect
 
his usual spam isnt conceptual dura neg but im pretty sure he has some that uses concepts
 
his usual spam isnt conceptual dura neg but im pretty sure he has some that uses concepts
Of course it isn't, but against a 5-B it likely would be at least in part that, remember that Gil has similar spam capabilities to Shirou who stopped Ea beam for a time.
 
IIRC even the ones that aren't named retain their different effect
Yeah, but the unnamed doesn't have the whole neg durability as in that case, Herc will been much damaged more although in the case of Herc, he does have God hand that nullify the damage that is below A ranked noble phantasm and even then A ranked ones injure him.
 
you need to clarify by continue fighting after dying can he move ifs hes shredded apart by danmaku? or looking like a cactus? hes lord of the eyes to evade stuff has a time limit and gil can spam for days.
also consider the distance
Adam's eyes only overloaded because Zeus' attacks were so fast and strong they should've killed Adam without fail. Gilgamesh's Danmaku isn't gonna do that unless he brings out the good shit.
 
Yeah, but the unnamed doesn't have the whole neg durability as in that case, Herc will been much damaged more although in the case of Herc, he does have God hand that nullify the damage that is below A ranked noble phantasm and even then A ranked ones injure him.
his usual spam isnt conceptual dura neg but im pretty sure he has some that uses concepts
^^^^
 
Adam's eyes only overloaded because Zeus' attacks were so fast and strong they should've killed Adam without fail. Gilgamesh's Danmaku isn't gonna do that unless he brings out the good shit.
he can dodge fists that surpass time this might be interesting
 
you need to clarify by continue fighting after dying can he move ifs hes shredded apart by danmaku? or looking like a cactus? hes lord of the eyes to evade stuff has a time limit
It doesnt have a time limit, but using it too much leads into Adam death, which is what happend, but even after death, he could continue fighting until eventually stopped forever
 
Adam only got hit once by Zeus once Zeus threw an infinite speed attack which failed then entered his strongest form. Unless Gil pulls out some weirdo shit, Danmku isn't scratching Adam.
 
Yeah, but this requires me to going back into the VNs which keep in mind, the plot armor of Shirou doesn't even apply since he dies a lot in the dead ends.

Anyway, this is still a fair fight to being honest.
You actually don't, it happened in whatever Kaleid Liner or whatever it's called again
 
Adam only got hit once by Zeus once Zeus threw an infinite speed attack which failed then entered his strongest form. Unless Gil pulls out some weirdo shit, Danmku isn't scratching Adam.
He would pull out his dura neg on a 5-B. Adam still needs to kill Gilgamesh within 10 seconds or he dies hard to Ea.
 
Adam only got hit once by Zeus once Zeus threw an infinite speed attack which failed then entered his strongest form. Unless Gil pulls out some weirdo shit, Danmku isn't scratching Adam.
weird shit as in literally surrounding him, 360 degrees, with GoB portals?
I think that's more likely to hit than a single punch
 
weird shit as in literally surrounding him, 360 degrees, with GoB portals?
I think that's more likely to hit than a single punch
The speed difference is ******* ludicrous, You think Adam isn't gonna be able to hit Gil before he gets that chance?
He would pull out his dura neg on a 5-B. Adam still needs to kill Gilgamesh within 10 seconds or he dies hard to Ea.
^^^look above plz.
 
You actually don't, it happened in whatever Kaleid Liner or whatever it's called again
Oh Kaleid Liner? I am pretty sure it is treated to being a different timeline from Fate Zero and F/S, but I do remember the part of Ea being used by someone else than Gil destroying a RM user (Shirou Emiya from Miyu's world) so yeah, Shirou was defeated there although he was keep in prison for the most part.
 
Oh Kaleid Liner? I am pretty sure it is treated to being a different timeline from Fate Zero and F/S, but I do remember the part of Ea being used by someone else than Gil destroying a RM user (Shirou Emiya from Miyu's world) so yeah, Shirou was defeated there although he was keep in prison for the most part.
It was used by Angelica who is probably piss-weak compared to the Real Gil.
 
Oh Kaleid Liner? I am pretty sure it is treated to being a different timeline from Fate Zero and F/S, but I do remember the part of Ea being used by someone else than Gil destroying a RM user (Shirou Emiya from Miyu's world) so yeah, Shirou was defeated there although he was keep in prison for the most part.
UBW stayed the same, so yeh
The speed difference is ******* ludicrous, You think Adam isn't gonna be able to hit Gil before he gets that chance?

^^^look above plz.
The speed difference matters if Adam punches with thst specific attack we don't even know is in-character or not
 
The speed difference matters if Adam punches with thst specific attack we don't even know is in-character or not
There is nothing that shows that it isnt, since, he used it in the first moment that he got it and started using it the entire fight
 
The speed difference matters if Adam punches with thst specific attack we don't even know is in-character or not
Adam doesn't need to use the attack to have Infinite Speed. He dodged the attack, which means his reactions scale to it's speed. He can also use said attack along with being able to move that fast.
 
UBW stayed the same, so yeh

The speed difference matters if Adam punches with thst specific attack we don't even know is in-character or not
Yeah, but I going with Gil also using Chain of Enkidu. There is no way, he ain't using it since he is going against a enemy with divine traits.
 
Adam doesn't need to use the attack to have Infinite Speed. He dodged the attack, which means his reactions scale to it's speed. He can also use said attack along with being able to move that fast.
"Possibly Infinite" is what's listed on his profile so...
 
"At least Massively FTL+, possibly Infinite" nothing says anything about solid infinite reactions.
It doesnt need to be "solid infinite", if he has "possibly", it is also valid, and keep in mind that he wasnt infinite speed before Zeus fight, he only got it mid fight, which means that he can adapt to the danmaku speed
 
wait are you telling me you've been arguing under the assumption of speed not being equal this whole time
Pretty much. My brain operates 10x slower than the average human brain. Reading OPs is beyond me.

I also came here because Reaper told me there was bullshit going on, so I never expected the argument to move forward lol
 
No i think they meant if Adam can evade multiple punches that transcend time 0.000 then he can evade danmaku with reactions
 
****.

Meh. I'm 99% sure if Adam realizes that Gilgamesh is going to **** him that he'll use the only attack that can give him the win.
Oh undoubtedly, it's just he has to do this when he doesn't even know what Gil can do since GoB's range is only hundreds of meters, I think Gil can get off a full power Ea before Adam realizes he needs to throw his speed amp punch.
It doesnt need to be "solid infinite", if he has "possibly", it is also valid, and keep in mind that he wasnt infinite speed before Zeus fight, he only got it mid fight, which means that he can adapt to the danmaku speed
The danmaku speed is his speed lol also see above
 
Oh undoubtedly, it's just he has to do this when he doesn't even know what Gil can do since GoB's range is only hundreds of meters, I think Gil can get off a full power Ea before Adam realizes he needs to throw his speed amp punch.

The danmaku speed is his speed lol also see above
Gil speed? I know? Adam can copy and surpass it
 
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