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Adam vs Gilgamesh

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Even if Adam could indeed copy the abilities of the conceptual weapons of Gil, thing that he clearly can't, how could Adam face a shower of weapons each one with different powers? As far I remember he didn't even showed be able to use more than one copied power at the same time.

One argument that is good for Adam is the infinite speed with the fist, but even if he really used it Gil would see that before with precog and defend, counterattack or attack in a way that Adam is defeated before that.
 
Expectro2000xxx said:
Even if Adam could indeed copy the abilities of the conceptual weapons of Gil, thing that he clearly can't, how could Adam face a shower of weapons each one with different powers? As far I remember he didn't even showed be able to use more than one copied power at the same time.

One argument that is good for Adam is the infinite speed with the fist, but even if he really used it Gil would see that before with precog and defend, counterattack or attack in a way that Adam is defeated before that.
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Also there is the time he used chain of Enkidu vs Herc. Granted it was later on IIRC, but he did use the chains to restrict. The moment Gil pulls out the chain of Enkidu, there is no way for Adam to avoid that as it does prevent teleportation.
 
Tbf Gil would know Adam could one shot with a tap and that he has an infinite speed punch due to SNI so he might honestly pull Ea for this.
 
HammerStrikes219 said:
Also there is the time he used chain of Enkidu vs Herc. Granted it was later on IIRC, but he did use the chains to restrict. The moment Gil pulls out the chain of Enkidu, there is no way for Adam to avoid that as it does prevent teleportation.
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Adam can't teleport. And I'm 99% sure that only happened because Herc's divinity is strong as ****.
 
azontr said:
Adam can't teleport. And I'm 99% sure that only happened because Herc's divinity is strong as ****.
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Yeah, but it is not like he ain't gonna use it. He gonna have to use it eventually, but I think the chains of Enkidu doesn't have a profile as it did restrict Tiamat (granted though it was the fake Enkidu and for a few moments too)
DaReaperMan said:
Enkidu doesn't have Power null on profile lol
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Yeah, but I not sure if preventing teleportation counts as power null. Hmm it might, but I ain't sure.
 
PsychoWarper said:
Adam would probably have pretty high level Divinity by Fate standards tbh, literally built in Gods image, by God and having Divine abilities.
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If he did he'd probably be Low 1-C also. Granted, High-Divinity doesn't always grant tier 1, but most people who have Tier 1 in Fate have divinity that's high as **** lol
 
azontr said:
If he did he'd probably be Low 1-C also. Granted, High-Divinity doesn't always grant tier 1, but most people who have Tier 1 in Fate have divinity that's high as **** lol
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I dont think thats how verse equalisation works… plus plenty of characters with high divinity dont have Low 1-C like Hercules.
 
PsychoWarper said:
I dont think thats how verse equalisation works… plus plenty of characters with high divinity dont have Low 1-C like Hercules.
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I literally said that High Divinity didn't grant Tier 1. I said it to you, that I was pretty much jobbing. You read bro?
 
Am I reading this thread correctly?

Also, stop being aggressive, this goes to all sides of this debate. Relax.
 
Anyway, there are scenario(s) in this case:

1. Gil using SNI (Which has been stated that Gil actively restrict this ability), GOB Adam and if Adam survives, he either chain him or EA him. Technically both if push comes to shove

2. Gil get a bit too cocky and gets oneshot if Adam come close to him and avoids or tank every single GOB weaponry that Gil has contained in that vault, then he decides to use Ea which he has used against Iskandar's RM in that particular instance.
 
HammerStrikes219 said:
Anyway, there are scenario(s) in this case:

1. Gil using SNI (Which has been stated that Gil actively restrict this ability), GOB Adam and if Adam survives, he either chain him or EA him. Technically both if push comes to shove

2. Gil get a bit too cocky and gets oneshot if Adam come close to him and avoids or tank every single GOB weaponry that Gil has contained in that vault, then he decides to use Ea which he has used against Iskandar's RM in that particular instance.
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Except Gilgamesh would actually just pull Ea immediately and force Adam to kill him within 10 seconds... because Gil isn't about to **** around with someone who is flat 5-B.
 
DaReaperMan said:
Except Gilgamesh would actually just pull Ea immediately and force Adam to kill him within 10 seconds... because Gil isn't about to **** around with someone who is flat 5-B.
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Yeah, but none of them know the others well right? Gilgamesh doesn't know Adam and Adam doesn't know him.

However, if Gil does use SNI (assuming he stop restricting this ability of his completely), he also probably put him down with Chain of Enkidu since after all, it is technically possible to restrict and kill him while using those chains.
 
HammerStrikes219 said:
Yeah, but none of them know the others well right? Gilgamesh doesn't know Adam and Adam doesn't know him.

However, if Gil does use SNI (assuming he stop restricting this ability of his completely), he also probably put him down with Chain of Enkidu so after all, it is technically possible to restrict and kill him while using those chains.
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SNI would passively tell Gilgamesh that Adam is 5-B and has divinity, as well as his most notable abilities
 
DaReaperMan said:
SNI would passively tell Gilgamesh that Adam is 5-B and has divinity, as well as his most notable abilities
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Yes as I am taking in consideration of his SNI as he doesn't have it on by default.

Still I am pretty sure it will been evident that his GOB weaponry will not necessarily kill Adam and as such, he gonna get a lot more serious so that is when Ea comes in to put Adam down or the chains
 
HammerStrikes219 said:
Yeah, but none of them know the others well right? Gilgamesh doesn't know Adam and Adam doesn't know him.

However, if Gil does use SNI (assuming he stop restricting this ability of his completely), he also probably put him down with Chain of Enkidu since after all, it is technically possible to restrict and kill him while using those chains.
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Even restricted it tell him things like the abilities, identity and power of the other side, so he will know that the other part one-shot, this at the same time make him don't get cocky and no joke around, so he would unrestrict it.
 
HammerStrikes219 said:
Yes as I am taking in consideration of his SNI as he doesn't have it on by default.

Still I am pretty sure it will been evident that his GOB weaponry will not necessarily kill Adam and as such, he gonna get a lot more serious so that is when Ea comes in to put Adam down.
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He doesn't have it fully "I see every future" by default. It's passively restricted.

GoB will kill Adam due to durability negating weaponry thst are conceptual
 
DaReaperMan said:
He doesn't have it fully "I see every future" by default. It's passively restricted.

GoB will kill Adam due to durability negating weaponry thst are conceptual
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Wait, according to Gil's profile, out of all of the weaponry he has, I thought Ea was the one that ignore durability. Also speaking of Gil's weapons, I thought that not all of them are purely conceptual by nature, then again been awhile since I read his mats especially Kid Gil's mats
Expectro2000xxx said:
Even restricted it tell him things like the abilities, identity and power of the other side, so he will know that the other part one-shot, this at the same time make him don't get cocky and no joke around, so he would unrestrict it.
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Yeah, I should go back to rereading the mats for that SNI, but hmm fair enough.
 
HammerStrikes219 said:
Wait, according to Gil's profile, out of all of the weaponry he has, I thought Ea was the one that ignore durability. Also speaking of Gil's weapons, I thought that not all of them are purely conceptual by nature, then again been awhile since I read his mats especially Kid Gil's mats

Yeah, I should go back to rereading the mats for that SNI, but hmm fair enough.
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They aren't, but a good portion of them are. No, most of the weapons neg durability one way or another I believe
 
DaReaperMan said:
They aren't, but a good portion of them are. No, most of the weapons neg durability one way or another I believe
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Wait, where and when was this stated? I don't remember if most of the weapons actually has their way to neg durability as I don't remember this being stated in official mats.
 
HammerStrikes219 said:
Wait, where and when was this stated? I don't remember if most of the weapons actually has their way to neg durability as I don't remember this being stated in official mats.
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From hax actually, ya know like freezing, sheer heat, just plain cutting shit conceptually, the works
azontr said:
Nobody has addressed the fact that killing Adam isn't going to stop him from fighting.
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If he didn't have limbs or, ya know, was hit by a Low 1-C hit it would incap him.
 
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