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Acheron vs Anti spiral.
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how exactly does her mm3 works? according to her profile its limited to mind attacks
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her profile never got updated i thought i fixed that
horizon of existence is a shadow of IX which hax scale to IX themselves
IX (Honkai: Star Rail)
IX is the Aeon that presides over the Path of Nihility. THEIR existence is a mystery. IX doesn't interact with the other Aeons. THEY believe that the ultimate fate of the multiverse is nothingness, and therefore, worthless. Tier: Low 1-C Name: IX Titles: Aeon of Nihility, IX the Nihility, The...
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Mind attacks in Honkai are also IM2 based though since they're the same thing
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I mentoned this too, wtf does acheron do to large size 10 anti spiral
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so right, can't he just send acheron to the infinte labernyth first, MM3 is nothing here
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Ok so we kinda forgot to update the page for anti spiral lmaoooooooo, here's the new things
Abstract Existence (Type 1 - Thoughts, {Will & Spirit} Information-Type 2; Anti-Spiral thought body is made up of the collective information of the Anti-spiral race)
Low Godly Regeneration (Thoughts & Information-Type 2 via {Will & Spirit} Capable of regenerating their thought body after getting erased, with said thought body being made up of the collective information of the Anti-spiral race)
Acausality (Types 2 & higher degree of type 4. Merged every version of himself upon integrating the multiverse as a part of him. Deleted causality and transcends acausality 4's Cause-effect relationship) which spiral obv already has as he created all this
For post apotheosis
Acausality (Types 2 & 4 - 【Time】,【Fate】& 【Causality】; Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann's true form is that of a virtual Quantum body formed by layering the multiverse created by merging all possibilities of Gurren Lagann, It is an abstract mech materialized in the super space, and embodies the very unbreakable spirit of team Dai-Gurren that is to break through Causality, defy fate and decide their own futures)
Information Analysis, Information Absorption and Information Manipulation (type-2; The Anti-Spiral thought body is made up of the collective information of the Anti-spiral race, and is capable of analysing, extracting and assimilating information, from Nia's memories with said information defining her very self)
So questions
1) How can acheron interact with this type of acasuality?
2) How can acheron survive IM2
3) how does MM3 handle greater type 4 of acasuality
4) dosnt AE1 make him inmune to a lot of haxes that are on acheron profile?
Abstract Existence (Type 1 - Thoughts, {Will & Spirit} Information-Type 2; Anti-Spiral thought body is made up of the collective information of the Anti-spiral race)
Low Godly Regeneration (Thoughts & Information-Type 2 via {Will & Spirit} Capable of regenerating their thought body after getting erased, with said thought body being made up of the collective information of the Anti-spiral race)
Acausality (Types 2 & higher degree of type 4. Merged every version of himself upon integrating the multiverse as a part of him. Deleted causality and transcends acausality 4's Cause-effect relationship) which spiral obv already has as he created all this
For post apotheosis
Acausality (Types 2 & 4 - 【Time】,【Fate】& 【Causality】; Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann's true form is that of a virtual Quantum body formed by layering the multiverse created by merging all possibilities of Gurren Lagann, It is an abstract mech materialized in the super space, and embodies the very unbreakable spirit of team Dai-Gurren that is to break through Causality, defy fate and decide their own futures)
Information Analysis, Information Absorption and Information Manipulation (type-2; The Anti-Spiral thought body is made up of the collective information of the Anti-spiral race, and is capable of analysing, extracting and assimilating information, from Nia's memories with said information defining her very self)
So questions
1) How can acheron interact with this type of acasuality?
2) How can acheron survive IM2
3) how does MM3 handle greater type 4 of acasuality
4) dosnt AE1 make him inmune to a lot of haxes that are on acheron profile?
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it activites passivley, simon and all of his crew got trapped on an 11 dimensional space the moment they tought they could win. nvm found a better explanation:
the laaberynth manipulates the quantum cosmology interpretation to trap victims' consciousness, forcing them to perceive infinite possibilities that will spawn infinite universes instant to instant. Anyone who is capable of recognizing possibilities won't be able to escape, and their Spiral Power will be halted. So shw lowkey just dies
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I doubt its passive because it didnt even sctuvate the moment anti spiral appeared and boota wasnt affected by it, im pretty sure lordgenome wasnt either until they tried to fight anti spiral
im kinda confused on the wording here
So if they can perceive infinite possibilities they sre trapped forever?
If this only affects acheron and not the horizon then mm3 still applies i mean incon would be pretty funny tho
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Acheron can interact with souls and info 2
Where is this on his profile
How tf does he have LGR but regens feom info??????? Thats just HGR
Neither of these matter since her main wincons do require fate or causality manip
Same as above
Acheron resists info2 + she has resistance and power null
Why does she need to? Those acausalities dont require special interaction
unconventional resistance. Its on her profile
Mm3 affects anything. It can even affect 1-A without being an anti feat
No it just means that she csnt touch him bjt she can interact with AE1 info 2 and souls so she can still interact with him
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so far the only thing saving acheron is MM3, ok so spiral gets hit with it, ok cool she still getting sended to the labernithy no matter what lol, she literal has no wincons. its an instant passive BFR that grows for infinity, wtf is she supposed to do get 11D AP?
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he should write it to me as well bc that ******* thread is still ongoing and its been 2 months almost like holy shit it's just acau 1/4 it CANT be that complicated
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I forgor to list spiral wincon mb (supporters are dead), so gonna explain the labernyth itself:
its a trap to confine victim's consciousness into infinite possibilities by materializing the multiverse, generated by the divergence of the time axis at the moment of perception instant to instant and replacing it with infinite universes, a trap developed by the Anti-Spiral solely to prevent the Spiral Power from being used by the Spirals.
we know its instant because of this example: With infinite possibilities being perceived, an infinite number of universes are created, with each universe branching off into infinitely more universes and so on in order to keep freezing their consciousness.
and there is also examples and quotes from the databook: "The "multiverse" is a universe that becomes real at the moment of recognition. It is a logical trap that no intelligent creature can escape from the multiverse forever because the possibility of a possible future changes directly into a universe. In Simon's case, for example, he is trapped in the possibility that if Kamina were alive and did not fight the beastmen, he wouldn't have died. There is an infinite number of possibilities, and hell will follow. It is no longer possible to return to the real universe after being affected by a different kind of multiverse.
So like there is literally nothing stopping spiral to send them there to die for infinty, and knowing a lil about acheron lore, she has a ton of things she would want but she can't do it, making it worse. Worth noting even if she has the range simon needed to absorb the entiere thing, which is a stats feat not a range feat, so range is worthless here.
So still voting for anti spiral
its a trap to confine victim's consciousness into infinite possibilities by materializing the multiverse, generated by the divergence of the time axis at the moment of perception instant to instant and replacing it with infinite universes, a trap developed by the Anti-Spiral solely to prevent the Spiral Power from being used by the Spirals.
we know its instant because of this example: With infinite possibilities being perceived, an infinite number of universes are created, with each universe branching off into infinitely more universes and so on in order to keep freezing their consciousness.
and there is also examples and quotes from the databook: "The "multiverse" is a universe that becomes real at the moment of recognition. It is a logical trap that no intelligent creature can escape from the multiverse forever because the possibility of a possible future changes directly into a universe. In Simon's case, for example, he is trapped in the possibility that if Kamina were alive and did not fight the beastmen, he wouldn't have died. There is an infinite number of possibilities, and hell will follow. It is no longer possible to return to the real universe after being affected by a different kind of multiverse.
So like there is literally nothing stopping spiral to send them there to die for infinty, and knowing a lil about acheron lore, she has a ton of things she would want but she can't do it, making it worse. Worth noting even if she has the range simon needed to absorb the entiere thing, which is a stats feat not a range feat, so range is worthless here.
So still voting for anti spiral
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boota was because he was ''special'' and lordgenome ngl don't remember why but it is probably cuz he has an insane amount of spiral energy which acheron dosnt have, which acheron isnt nither to both so. Also lets say she dura negs him, oksimon also got duranegged by simon and still outgrown them with super gramezoma, lets remember you can't really dura neg the spiral power (page is erased) because it is always evolving, so dura neg isnt really an option here
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it literally says it there? its perception based, it literally says if u even comprehend it u get stuck into it, it also affects the entiere time and space of the user but am ngl I havent seen too much about it
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Acheron duraneg is the equivalent of a mosquito biting you
She drops dead to literally any single attack
Like genuinely this is doing some bum ahh stuff
She drops dead to literally any single attack
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also correct me if am wrong but MM3 dosnt make you instantly fold right, he can still shoot a big bang attack lol
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its still there, on the cosmo page there are like 1 example from the director of who it activites
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give me time ok that page was updated for the last time like 2017
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IX MM3 bro I guess
Use some critical thinking bud. So what if Acheron duranegs you? She doesn't have the AoE to cover someone whose multiple Universes bigger than that. Anti-Spiral will be chipped a bit but his main body is untouched because theres just so much of it
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That's not doing shit bro
and she doesnt even have infinite stamina to abuse it
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I just noticed something thoIf its not currently accepted or indexed then we cant use it
Limitations: Those who are capable of perceiving, understanding and/or experiencing that which is naturally extreme or incomprehensible should be able to ignore this, beings whose physical forms are similarly complex or extreme in nature are likely to be unaffected by exposure to such a being.
This goes back to my main point, the spiral race as we know its just an abstract tought body which only can be comprehended by spiral users WHO THE SPIRAL CHOOSES TO, so then am confused
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how tf do u stop´time on a place that dosnt have time LMAO
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IX is, she isnt LMAO, her AOE is galaxy at best wtf is she gonna do when she's stopped by infinte over infinte universes
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