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Btw would you still agree with giving Acheron like Resistance to Precognition and Fate Manipulation since she doesn't exist in Elio's script, or like Unconventional Resistance?
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Acheron does NOT have acausality type 2
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Just Unconventional Resistance to Precog
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What about High 1-C Sirin take
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Remember that HoV has the ability to make an infinite being like Otto finite. If only he didn’t cap at 7-C though.
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I understand, then that means that almost every profile I listed that has it, needs to lose it as their only justifications was that "changes to the past or future don't affect the present".Welp, here goes. First quoting the page:
Now my interpretation:
If we were to take the timeline as a line, then a type 2 being is like a single dot inside that line. It can move to different points in time (in linear or not), but it does not leave any trace behind, not even immediate traces.
Because even changes to your self from 1 second ago can effect the present, such that if you were to be erased 1 second ago, you won't exist 1 second later; by being immune to that, type 2s are essentially screaming that they only exist in the present. The true essence is not creating a path across space-time, not about "erasing your history" or whatever, though that may be one of the unconventional ways to get type 2. But yes, you have to be constantly erasing your past/future if you want to get Type 2 via that method.
Graphically, it's something like this:
Hope that helps.
- Normal people trace a path in time normally. You can manipulate any of their past points.
- People whose past is retroactively erased at different points in time cannot have their erased past manipulated, but their immediate past is still there for one to erase. Only way to bypass this is IF the retroactive erasure is passive and constantly doing its job (as that's no different from a type 2 except in how they erase it)
- Type 2 beings just don't trace a path AT ALL. Thus why a future or past is never generated for them that can be manipulated.
Personally I'm neutral to the proposal on the thread.
Not reading that long of a yapfest :d
Also frankly this feels like such a niche type, I wonder if there's any actual applications that fit it. I don't see how a normal character can have this if it sorta requires for them to have a self centered and self isolated timeline of their own. There's no really other way since if they uninteracted with anyone and their timeline crossed paths with another person's every interaction would be rewritten creating constant paradoxes.
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Um, yes? I literally argued this already. It was erased and then after Enigmata covered it. Which is literally against the ops argument that Nihility did it.
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Yeah no that's literally type 1, not type 2. I don't get how it was even accepted
You can post the examples on my msg wall or send it to me in private messages, and I'll try to look at all of them.
Type 2 is mostly about having total immunity to time related hax effecting the present
Type 1 gives you some resistance, but there are ways to overcome it. It can be affected by layered hax and so on. Type 2 is total immunity under the condition that said hax isn't direclty interfering with the present, as in type 2 you don't even have anything to be affected. The difference between type 1 and 2 is like having soul resistance and lacking a soul entirely.
Though I think there's some misunderstanding. This whole "no one, even those that direclty interacted with the character, can remember them". This is one of the ways to get history eraure or related hax, yeah, but the whole "it's an absolute requirement of type 2" isn't a thing.
Type 2 just means you don't exist in the past or future in a sense that from the perspective of abilities, you don't exist. But natural things like a character remembering you just because they interacted with you, is not an anti feat for type 2 (the only thing I could think of, is that it's an anti feat for type 5)
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TOWN LEVEL OTTO SLANDER
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Istaroth don't even have Acausality type 1 but randoms like Scaramouche does for erasing his own past from Irminsul as a history recorder
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Btw it's only history manipulation at best for Scara since all he did was to remove his past from everyone's past, and alter the information related to him so no Acausality type 1 but that's for another thread
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