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So while I was in the process of applying the last approved revision for Accelerator I had to redo the keys and realized that his lifting strength justification is... lacking.
The current justification is weird. It's things like "Class Z by being comparable to AP". AP and LS are different stats, so what would that even mean? I suspect it's a remnant from when the stats were different and refers to the feat where Accel slowed down Earth and suggests that this would equate to roughly Class Z LS. That's weird but technically kinda fine. Would need reformulation, though.
Then there are portions about scaling to the opponent's durability. All other problems with that aside, as durability and LS are different units (energy vs force) it is unclear how one even scales durability to LS.
Then there are the Class 100 and Class K stats for his LS without vector control. The page gives no explanation for those at all and I have no idea where they might come from.
So what do I suggest we do? Well, something completely different.
As you can see in the durability section of the page Accel's vector redirection ability is accepted as High Complex Multiverse level. That is due to the fact that he can redirect forces like Coronzon's Flaming_Sword. In other words his ability to just redirect vectors/forces/energy is at such a level.
Hence his LS should be 'Immeasurable' via vector control. Accel's ability would allow him to lift basically anything with effectively Tier 1 strength. No matter how heavy it is, Accel can just use that Tier 1 redirection to invert the influence gravity has on the object to make it float up.
Similarly, he can essentially deal with all other LS scenarios. Like, if someone tries to hold him in place, he can just invert the force holding him in place and get free.
So yeah, he should get "Average Human, Immeasurable via vector control", since he can use his tier 1 ability to lift stuff.
The current justification is weird. It's things like "Class Z by being comparable to AP". AP and LS are different stats, so what would that even mean? I suspect it's a remnant from when the stats were different and refers to the feat where Accel slowed down Earth and suggests that this would equate to roughly Class Z LS. That's weird but technically kinda fine. Would need reformulation, though.
Then there are portions about scaling to the opponent's durability. All other problems with that aside, as durability and LS are different units (energy vs force) it is unclear how one even scales durability to LS.
Then there are the Class 100 and Class K stats for his LS without vector control. The page gives no explanation for those at all and I have no idea where they might come from.
So what do I suggest we do? Well, something completely different.
As you can see in the durability section of the page Accel's vector redirection ability is accepted as High Complex Multiverse level. That is due to the fact that he can redirect forces like Coronzon's Flaming_Sword. In other words his ability to just redirect vectors/forces/energy is at such a level.
Hence his LS should be 'Immeasurable' via vector control. Accel's ability would allow him to lift basically anything with effectively Tier 1 strength. No matter how heavy it is, Accel can just use that Tier 1 redirection to invert the influence gravity has on the object to make it float up.
Similarly, he can essentially deal with all other LS scenarios. Like, if someone tries to hold him in place, he can just invert the force holding him in place and get free.
So yeah, he should get "Average Human, Immeasurable via vector control", since he can use his tier 1 ability to lift stuff.
