Acausality Type 4 and Causality Manipulation Above Baseline

[Frxwins]

can Acausality Type 4 still be attacked with Causality manipulation Above Baseline?

So as an example, there is a character A who has Acausality Type 4 and there is a Character B who has Causality Manipulation Above Baseline but has never been shown to have an impact on Acausality Type 4, can character B Ability still affect character A? because from what's on the vsbw page, Acausality Type 4 only provides Resistance and should be countered with Causality Manipulation above baseline

 

[Frxwins]

Bump

 

[Tatsumi504]

Nope, Aca 4 basically gives immunity as long as the causality manipulation isn't HD and has no feats of affecting Aca 4

 

[Rendynoc0unter]

Nope, Aca 4 basically gives immunity as long as the causality manipulation isn't HD and has no feats of affecting Aca 4

Aca4 get immunity Causality Manipulation?
Really?

 

[Tatsumi504]

Aca4 get immunity Causality Manipulation?
Really?

As long as the causality manipulation isn't HD and has no feats of affecting type 4 then yes, no amount of layers will help you affect type 4. It needs feats

 

[Rendynoc0unter]

As long as the causality manipulation isn't HD and has no feats of affecting type 4 then yes, no amount of layers will help you affect type 4. It needs feats

wait wait wait, "HD"?, What is this?

Higher Dimension??

 

[Tatsumi504]

wait wait wait, "HD"?, What is this?

Higher Dimension??

Yes, if it's Higher dimensional causality hax, then it bypasses lower dimensional Acausality 4

 

[Frxwins]

Nope, Aca 4 basically gives immunity as long as the causality manipulation isn't HD and has no feats of affecting Aca 4

immunity? isn't it that to have immunity at least you have to lack of or transduality, even in the vsbw page it says Acausality Type 4 only gets resistance

 

[Frxwins]

wouldn't it make more sense if Acausality Type 4 can never be attacked by normal Causality since Acausality Type 4 is already at unconventional causality

so that whatever level of strength of normal causality cannot attack Acausality Type 4 which is in unconventional causality

Because regardless of the level of conventional causality, it remains ordinary causality and is not irregular

 

[Tatsumi504]

immunity? isn't it that to have immunity at least you have to lack of or transduality, even in the vsbw page it says Acausality Type 4 only gets resistance

It's resistance, yes. I used immunity cause as long as you don't have feats, no matter how many layers of hax you have, you can't affect it

 

[Tatsumi504]

wouldn't it make more sense if Acausality Type 4 can never be attacked by normal Causality since Acausality Type 4 is already at unconventional causality

so that whatever level of strength of normal causality cannot attack Acausality Type 4 which is in unconventional causality

Because regardless of the level of conventional causality, it remains ordinary causality and is not irregular

Yes, as long as the causality manipulation has no feats of affecting type 4

 

[Robo432343]

It's resistance, yes. I used immunity cause as long as you don't have feats, no matter how many layers of hax you have, you can't affect it

what if the character has higher dimensional manipulation hax thingy

 

[Tatsumi504]

what if the character has higher dimensional manipulation hax thingy

If its HD causality manipulation then lower D acausality 4 means nothing

 

[Robo432343]

oooo

 

[Frxwins]

If its HD causality manipulation then lower D acausality 4 means nothing

I also recently heard that now NEP, Acausality, TD are limited by dimensions, so any type can be attacked by higher Dimensions without the need for NPI or Negation Is that true?

I see on the vsbw page there is no explanation about it, is there a thread that discusses it and can you share the link?

 

[Tatsumi504]

I also recently heard that now NEP, Acausality, TD are limited by dimensions, so any type can be attacked by higher Dimensions without the need for NPI or Negation Is that true?

I see on the vsbw page there is no explanation about it, is there a thread that discusses it and can you share the link?

Acausality and TD not NEP. I think there was a thread where they got revised but can't remember

 

[Frxwins]

Acausality and TD not NEP. I think there was a thread where they got revised but can't remember

Has the revision not been received yet? because there has been no change in the vsbw page

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Stop saying immunity.
Type 4 only gives resistance.
And by resistance that means they can still be affected if the causality manipulation reaches even irregular causality or causality that differs from conventional ones

If the causality manip works against someone with resistance but has no feats or statement of affecting someone with irregular ones. We cant assume it will work.

 

[Tatsumi504]

Stop saying immunity.
Type 4 only gives resistance.
And by resistance that means they can still be affected if the causality manipulation reaches even irregular causality or causality that differs from conventional ones

If the causality manip works against someone with resistance but has no feats or statement of affecting someone with irregular ones. We cant assume it will work.

Which is exactly what I've said here. I just used "immunity" because no amount of layers would do anything without feats

 

[Tatsumi504]

Stop saying immunity.
Type 4 only gives resistance.
And by resistance that means they can still be affected if the causality manipulation reaches even irregular causality or causality that differs from conventional ones

If the causality manip works against someone with resistance but has no feats or statement of affecting someone with irregular ones. We cant assume it will work.

Which is exactly what I've said here. I just used "immunity" because no amount of layers would do anything without feats