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Could we count feats are pokemon in mystery dungeon as part of their main profiles or would we count them as their own verse?
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so the feats are part of a pokemon's real abilities. thanks. that's what i wanted to know.Davy0 said:It doesn't matter. So does the implied Pokemon Alpha Sapphire and Pokemon Omega Ruby, but we still count them as real showings for Pokemon overall.
Pokemon is a multiverse, and that's all there is to it. I'm about to use that claim with the characters in Digimon and whatnot because this stuff is getting silly.
so how do you suppose we scale mystery dungeon?Blahblah9755 said:But wouldn't this put pretty much every Pokémon you can start with at 2-C since they canonically have to defeat Palkya or Dialga in their respective games? I think it would make much more sense to put mystery dungeon as a seperate category on the main Pokemon pages.
those feets probably shouldn't count as that's a pretty big outlier. but other things preformed by specific pokemon as those seem less impossible to properly disserBlahblah9755 said:But wouldn't this put pretty much every Pokémon you can start with at 2-C since they canonically have to defeat Palkya or Dialga in their respective games? I think it would make much more sense to put mystery dungeon as a seperate category on the main Pokemon pages.
well by story canon only the player and partner fight dialga, palkia, and others. in the first games only the player and partner fight and injure a non-mega rayquaza. in the 3rd one. i forgot what they did. the new one that should be out soon has some intense stuff such as fighting giratina.Squid peanut said:I haven't played much in terms of mystery dungeon, is there any unique power held by those two
yeah as it is a world without humans. so this could be scales like any other rpg.Squid peanut said:so if we want we could have a special thing for this kind of pokemon as it seems they don't represent their species as a whole
2-C would be too high. see i want a good conclusion and 2-C is completely unreasonable. rayquaza may be a good scale. as a low ball consensus. so i'd say 6-B for the first game. At least 5-B for game 2. i forgot about game 3. and all i've seen of game 4 they fight giratina. so i'd say 5-B at least.Squid peanut said:okay, just was going off of a previous comment that said 2-C
yet they did multiple times. primal dialga and palkia. both who were bloodlusted.Unclechairman said:I don't recall anything being said about the player Pokemon and their partner actually being stronger than other Pokemon. What was special about the player Pokemon is that they had the ability to use the Dimensional Scream to predict the future or see the past by touching objects or other Pokemon.
As for Dialga and Palka, defeating Dialga would be a feat limited to the player and their partner anyway since the Hidden Land does not allow anyone but the player Pokemon and partner Pokemon to enter (and Grovyle, but he's out of the picture before you reach Temporal Tower). Post-game Spacial Rift is open to all, though, meaning Palkia could technically be defeated by anyone.
However, the player Pokemon and their partner are clearly 3-dimensional, and as such by our standards should not be capable of damaging or affecting a 4-dimensional being or a being with powers over universal dimensional framework such as Dialga or Palkia.
for example Seiya and the lake trio. who are also fought.Blahblah9755 said:There are many seemingly three dimensional beings capable of 4 dimensional power. I don't see why it should be different in the case of the player and partner.