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I said I would be making this thread and I am finally. Forgive me if I sound overly blunt on this, but this is kind of bothering me so I need to get to the bottom of this by getting it out the way.
Now apparently, our requirements for making non-canon character pages here is along the lines of there needing to be differences between the canon and non-canon counterparts of the character, such as stats or backstory, to be considered okay to make the page. Something like this is what I recall the last time I was on this subject.
Im going to be honest here. I don't see how at all this needs to be a requirement. Sure, making pages for characters that are 99.9% the same as their already canon ones is likely not worth the effort in making just to have an extra page. I can live with that. But its a different story when it comes to difference in stats or backstory. Why is the former such a big requirement for non-canon pages to be made? Is there any specific purpose for this? Because if not, I don't see why we couldnt just, instead, place a note specifying the pages are non-canon and cannot scale or influence the statistics of their canon counterparts. Having such a requirement basically puts a limit on what pages can or can't be made for no good reason. As I said, Im all for not making pages that only have, like, 1 thing different from their canon ones, but there shouldnt be any strictness to this after that point.
In addition, its 100% possible for characters to either have the same stats, but different backstories, or characters with the same story but different stats. Some to even the extreme. For example (and Im using her for a reason), take Kaguya Otsutsuki from Naruto. Kaguya in the main Naruto canon is only tier 5 for reasons listed. But if we were to take her game counterpart at face value, Kaguya from that canon would easily become tier 4 or, at the bare minimum, be tiered far far higher than her canon counterpart. Why? Because unlike the main canons material, Game Kaguya has evidence of her dimensions literally being filled with entire stars, her dimensions being the main core part of her AP stats. If it werent for the main canon lacking this evidence, canon Kaguya would have much more going for her here. To make the story short, game Kaguya has the same story as her canon one, yet she can easily be ridiculously stronger in non-canon than in canon (plus a note, IIRC, the Naruto games have a good deal of different abiliies that obviously arent available in the main canon but thats beside the point.). So whats the real issue in making a non-canon Kaguya page with different stats and just placing a note that it has nothing to do with her canon page to prevent cross-scaling?
Basically, my argument here is that unless canon and non-canon counterparts are only different by very small irrelevant details, but have either different backstories or different stats/abilities, there's no real reason why we should deny those pages to be made. Im of course okay with everyone disagreeing with me, but I needed to get this out.
Now apparently, our requirements for making non-canon character pages here is along the lines of there needing to be differences between the canon and non-canon counterparts of the character, such as stats or backstory, to be considered okay to make the page. Something like this is what I recall the last time I was on this subject.
Im going to be honest here. I don't see how at all this needs to be a requirement. Sure, making pages for characters that are 99.9% the same as their already canon ones is likely not worth the effort in making just to have an extra page. I can live with that. But its a different story when it comes to difference in stats or backstory. Why is the former such a big requirement for non-canon pages to be made? Is there any specific purpose for this? Because if not, I don't see why we couldnt just, instead, place a note specifying the pages are non-canon and cannot scale or influence the statistics of their canon counterparts. Having such a requirement basically puts a limit on what pages can or can't be made for no good reason. As I said, Im all for not making pages that only have, like, 1 thing different from their canon ones, but there shouldnt be any strictness to this after that point.
In addition, its 100% possible for characters to either have the same stats, but different backstories, or characters with the same story but different stats. Some to even the extreme. For example (and Im using her for a reason), take Kaguya Otsutsuki from Naruto. Kaguya in the main Naruto canon is only tier 5 for reasons listed. But if we were to take her game counterpart at face value, Kaguya from that canon would easily become tier 4 or, at the bare minimum, be tiered far far higher than her canon counterpart. Why? Because unlike the main canons material, Game Kaguya has evidence of her dimensions literally being filled with entire stars, her dimensions being the main core part of her AP stats. If it werent for the main canon lacking this evidence, canon Kaguya would have much more going for her here. To make the story short, game Kaguya has the same story as her canon one, yet she can easily be ridiculously stronger in non-canon than in canon (plus a note, IIRC, the Naruto games have a good deal of different abiliies that obviously arent available in the main canon but thats beside the point.). So whats the real issue in making a non-canon Kaguya page with different stats and just placing a note that it has nothing to do with her canon page to prevent cross-scaling?
Basically, my argument here is that unless canon and non-canon counterparts are only different by very small irrelevant details, but have either different backstories or different stats/abilities, there's no real reason why we should deny those pages to be made. Im of course okay with everyone disagreeing with me, but I needed to get this out.
