A question about Omniscience

[Regidian]

also, how do you guys feel about the argument that 4th wall breakers know knowledge that not even omniscient beings know since most 4th wall breakers know they are in a story and are completely fictional while some omniscient's or nigh omniscient do not know that they are fictional characters and if they don't know that they are fictional characters how will they know about anything outside their own verse without a crossover or something like that.

For that don't well void shiki will know wince some people in nasuverse litteraly know that and she know all the thing they know

 

[YungManzi]

I honestly don't think we should assume omniscience grants all knowledge of a verse the character in question has nothing to do with, unless there's like very specific circumstances, statements, and/or abilities at play.

 

[YungManzi]

I also have my issues with omnipresence, but that's for another thread.

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

The moment you were playing devil's advocate because you didn't read a page properly.

 

[Regidian]

Should have an knowledge member to answer this properly, because as much as i remember it have always work like that

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

lol

 

[Regidian]

lol

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[ZoroNotZolo]

?

I'm just laughing because it's always worked like that and I had no idea XD

 

[Regidian]

I'm just laughing because it's always worked like that and I had no idea XD

It's Always work likr the "omniscient having knowledge about the ennemy they faced in vs", so it's why well someone who have made the page could help to clarify thing

 

[Youtd]

It's Always work likr the "omniscient having knowledge about the ennemy they faced in vs", so it's why well someone who have made the page could help to clarify thing

I guess were exact opposites when I was a lurker we would never just assume an omniscient character knows everything about a character outside of their verse just because they are omniscient.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Verse equalization should cover this, and make it where the Omniscient capability can know everything of another character not from their verse.

 

[Youtd]

Verse equalization should cover this, and make it where the Omniscient capability can know everything of another character not from their verse.

I dont think that's how it works verse equalization usually helps figure out how powers' and abilities would interact with each other or if a power system from one verse can be equalized with another we shouldn't just give omniscient characters knowledge on ever fictional character they fight against.

 

[YungManzi]

Verse equalization should cover this, and make it where the Omniscient capability can know everything of another character not from their verse.

Verse equalization isn't supposed to give you access to things you don't normally have though, it just makes it so the fight can reasonably take place and abilities work as they should normally.

That's the reason why verse equalization doesn't give people resistance to Bleach's Soul Crush.

Edit: Btw, I do think verse equalization would allow some omniscients to have this ability, they just need certain statements concerning their omniscience.

 

[Elizhaa]

Edit:
Also knowledge of other fictions is not a requirement for omniscience, so a character that knows everything about their own fictional franchise is considered to be omniscient

• I checked for it and it looks like the line never added without CRT in 2015 (standards were different back, though) and it looks like there are no concrete discussions that took place on omniscience's limitations.

I guess it would probably be best to just keep omniscience limited to the character's cosmology.

 

[Youtd]

I guess it would probably be best to just keep omniscience limited to the character's cosmology.

Agreed