A proof that Sonic is 5-A

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Just because an opponent is pure evil doesn't always mean Sonic uses the full power of the Chaos Emeralds. He just uses as much as needed, which in this case is just 5-A really. Dark Gaia is only a planetary threat, not a universal threat.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I mean...you're right, but I didn't argue anything about that.

 

[Blueblur24]

Just because an opponent is pure evil doesn't always mean Sonic uses the full power of the Chaos Emeralds. He just uses as much as needed, which in this case is just 5-A really. Dark Gaia is only a planetary threat, not a universal threat.

Well the statement that the Chaos emeralds have a bonus effect against beings of pure evil is false than.

 

[ED_INFINITUM]

@Ryukama

Hyper States are canon,Christian Whitehead stated the Super Emeralds became stone relics when the Chaos Emeralds drifted back into the special zone in Mania furthermore Aaron Webber & Takashi Iizuka stated they only got rid of them because they didn't want Sonic to be based on a powercurve where they would have to keep making new forms & new emeralds.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

@BlueBlur, not entirely. It's literally impossible for beings of Evil to access the full power of the Chaos Emeralds. And the only time the Chaos Emeralds full power were ever used in the franchise was against Solaris, which even then, Solaris was the only boss capable of damaging the Super Hedgehogs, every other boss simply does push back with the time limit being the only way to lose the fight.

The full power of the Chaos Emeralds is basically kryptonite for Solaris or other enemies. Albeit Time Eater is Low 2-C. So Sonic had a much larger portion of the CE's power. But still, the amount of positive energy inside the Chaos Emeralds is Far greater than the amount of negative energy that exists in them. Chaos was only able to absorb the all the negative energy, where as Sonic's positive energy literally stomped Perfect Chaos.

 

[Dark649]

AD Infinitum, i made a blog here debunking everything you said.

- Azathoth debunked the first topic. Eggman only drawed the remaining power of a Super Sonic after he used his power for while.

- The Phantom King has little control over the Ruby and the whole fight was nothing but an illusion.

- Dark Gaia has nothing that supports 2-C, same for 2-B Solaris since you are using an ambiguos continuity game.

- Super Sonic power varies from 4-A since he stomped Perfect Chaos and fought with being on this level to 2-C by fighting Solaris and easily defeating Time Eater.

- Sonic Forces and Generations should not be used as evidence for Base Sonic upgrades, same for the whole Emerl situation.

- Sonic and the other characters might get the Hyper Form back only if said form is reintroduced.

I will not allow any tier changes and i'm tired of this, if this upgrade threads appears again i will have to make a discussion rule.

 

[Blueblur24]

Ok but what about the egg wizard? And it is never stated that sonic never used the Chaos emeralds full power for the other bosses as well. But still the statement doesn't make sense in that case,because then sonic should have easily one shoted both dark Gaia, metal sonic, and perfect chaos. To be a little more clear I am not saying that their full power isn't tier 2 just that the opponent doesn't need to be pure evil to use their full power.

 

[Dark649]

Bluebur. The blog explains the Eggwizard, Super Sonic power varies on the boss fight for example he was 4-A against Metal Overlord and Perfect Dark Gaia opponents and to 2-C for Eggwizard and Solaris.

 

[Blueblur24]

Yes I know that I was just saying that the emeralds only being 2c against because of a pure evil opponent doesn't seem right.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

So I guess we can close this thread since the topic was pretty much debunked and questions answered?

 

[Dark649]

Yes.