A Fire breathing turtle vs RED Echidna

[King_Clab]

Both Low 2-C
Speed equelized

Both bloodlusted

Bowser has catch card's and time watch as optional equipment

FIGHTING in space
Start's 20 meter's away from each other

WHO WIN"S AND WHY?

VOTES:
Knuckles: 0
Bowser: 0

 

[King_Clab]

bump

 

[Ican'tthinkof1goodname]

Don't bump too much also what are Bowser's wincons?

 

[King_Clab]

Here are the link's if you want them.​

Bowser​

Knuckles the Echidna (Archie Pre-Genesis Wave)​

Bowser wincon's are sleep manip, soul manip, (dream manip if knuckles is asleep) and.......... Light Manipulation (Can unleash a large flash of light that turns anyone caught in it to stone) , BFR (He can forcibly bring his targets with him to various locations and inhale them into his body), Power Nullification (He can negate his opponents ability to attack or use items by stomping them, also via scaling to Bowser X who can suck attack icons, preventing Mario & Luigi to use their respective moves),Transmutation (Turned most of the Toads in the Mushroom Kingdom into stone blocks, bricks, and plants, turned a Koopa Troopa into a frog, was converting all the beings inside the castles paintings into subservient monsters, and turned all the Egglings living in Eggland into apples), Sealing (Trapped almost everyone in Peachs castle in the walls and paintings and sealed most of the doors in the castle).

 

[Ican'tthinkof1goodname]

What can Knuckles do?

 

[King_Clab]

God damn 2-B vs 2-A

Its a stomp for Knuckles cause nothing in that page shows 2-A Bowser

I will fix it.

 

[King_Clab]

What can Knuckles do?

Self-Sustenance (Type 3), Causality Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2), Law Manipulation,Soul Manipulation, Power Nullification, Magic, Reality Warping, Existence Erasure, Transmutation, Corruption, Biological Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation, and Law Manipulation.

 

[Ican'tthinkof1goodname]

King Koopa seems to have the better abilities

 

[Chaos Jester25]

Knuckles does not have a 2-B key. He is either low 2-C or 2-A

 

[King_Clab]

They both have more abilities but I random ones.

 

[King_Clab]

What is there a revision for a 2-A Mario character?

No, I made a mistake with both of them. I thought were 2-A.

 

[Chaos Jester25]

You could change them both to low 2-C and that could make it more fair.

 

[King_Clab]

They both are now Low 2-C now we shall see who really win's! (with out a pesky tier gap making this a stomp)

 

[ElixirBlue]

Er, Archie Knuckles need to be more up to date. Someone must have been confused putting Mind Manipulation on Base Knuckles.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Also, thread doesn’t have tags

 

[DatOneWeeb]

Low 2-C

Elixir. Are you ready for another Bowser seals gg?

 

[ElixirBlue]

Nice try. The OP didn't specify which Low 2-C key, so none of that "Bowser seals with the first move" thing.

 

[DatOneWeeb]

Nice try. The OP didn't specify which Low 2-C key, so none of that "Bowser seals with the first move" thing.

Nice try. Both of his Low 2-C selves are via Grand Stars.

Universe level+ with preparation (Was going to destroy the very fabric of the universe and remake it via his Galaxy Reactor had he not been stopped by Mario and lost his Grand Star)

Universe level+ (Empowered by a Grand Star which is not only vastly superior to Power Stars, but is also the source of power that he was going to use to destroy and remake the universe during the events of the first Super Mario Galaxy game)

 

[ElixirBlue]

Hold on. Did he start with sealing both times? (and if this is the same event, I don't understand why the Grand Star is in 2 seperate keys)

 

[DatOneWeeb]

Neither are different keys, they're the same item. Reason why he has Low 2-C with prep is because he can get access to a Grand Star with prep, lol. The arguments are basically the same. Bowser seals.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Merge the keys pls.

 

[DatOneWeeb]

Tell that to the Dusty Nerd, he did it, not me. Regardless, Bowser for DatOneWeeb's reasons.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Got a question. If Bowser starts with seal, how did Mario beat him?

 

[DatOneWeeb]

In the og Super Mario 64, Bowser sealed everyone in Peach's castle before Mario arrived. In the remake, he does it to Mario, Luigi, Wario. The reason the three escaped was because Yoshi was there to save them. And the reason why Bowser couldn't seal Mario again was because Power Stars null it, which is how you're able to set Toads free the more you progress.

 

[ElixirBlue]

R.I.P.