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A few issues with Kill la Kill

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1. Mikisugi: He's currently "At least Wall level" for scaling from BoS Base Ryuko. But we disregarded that key with Ryuko a long time ago. So he should scale from Base Mako, at the very least

2. Final Regalia E4 and possibly Iori: Let's just say they are a bit messy. We have the E4's current AP and justifications as followed:

So why is Nonon the only one with a + when they are nearly equal to each other? I think Weekly added this back when Nonon was put against Candice. Not dissing you or anything, Weekly, but doing stuff like this can undermine your credibility, especially against your haters.

Anyway, whether the Final Regalia E4 are each "At least Mountain level, possibly higher" or just straight up Mountain level+ must be discussed. Keep in mind they need to be 5.23 times to get the +.

Regardless what AP they end up with, I propose some new justifications as well. Each of them should have:

"Superior to Mako with new Fight Club Uniform, as he (for the guys)/ she (Nonon) can one-shot large numbers of COVERs that can overwhelm Mako. Fought several clones of Nui, with each of said clones being only slightly weaker than the real person"

Ira himself would also have this: "Physically the strongest of the Elite Four, as he managed to rip a hole in the barrier protecting the transmitter, albeit with immense efforts. Said barrier took an attack from Sanageyama without a scratch". His dura should be Large Mountain level because Ragyo was angry when he blocked her attack, not casual

I'll let you guys decide whether Iori scales, really

And discuss
 
1. Agreed

2. Nonon was the only one with a + because my lazy ass never got around to adding the + to everyone else
 
Bumping this

I should also mention that giving Final Regalia E4 a + would make Satsuki and anyone scaling to her Large Mountain level due to her current justifications combined with maths.

Each E4 having a + means one of them is at least 55% into Large Mountai, or needs at most 82%. Someone "Superior to their combined forces" logically have no reason to not close that gap of 1.82x

Brought that up long ago but was rejected due to being labelled calc-stacking. But Satsuki's current justification simply would simply contradict the tiering system if you upgrade the mid-tiers that's the E4
 
Good point, i dont have a problem with that

Message Ryu though, his input would be appreciated here
 
Before I do that, are COVERs Mountain level for tanking the 105 megatons explosion or for overwhelming Mark II E4 who could do that?
 
For overwhelming the Elite 4 who tanked the blast, although there were also COVERs in the dome when the explosion happened so they can probably scale to it as well
 
So let me confirm the scaling chain

Ragyo > Satsuki = Ryuko  Nui >> FR Ira  FR Uzu = FR Houka = FR III Nonon >> Combat COVERs > New FC Mako > Nui clones  Normal COVERs  Mk II Ira  105 megatons.

Did I leave anyone out?
 
New Fight Club Mako should be above the combat covers, she easily took down one the size of the Naked Sun and was casually oneshotting them while eating and having a conversation with her parents
 
She was eating while one shotting the normal ones, no?

Aren't combat COVERs the Jaeger-sized ones? I recall she only knocked it around a bit before sucking the humans out of it. FR Ira can squish one between his palms like a mosquito
 
She was eating while oneshotting the normal and enhanced COVERs yes (Enahnced COVERs being the ones that look super buff)

Combat Covers are the giant ones yes, and the first thing she did was knock it on its ass with a single punch. Ira did that yes he's far stronger than Mako.
 
The combat COVER was still only staggered from the punch. Mako only defeated it by sucking out the humans that provided it energy
 
Fair enough. But being slightly staggered doesn't mean it is outright weaker than her. Especially when the normal ones can gang up on her too. If anything, Combat COVERs  New FC Mako
 
I think that I should point out that characters can't get a Mountain+ rating unless there is an actual calc placing them at that level (So a calc between 550 and 999 megatons)

If they have scaling placing them far into the tier just add "possibly/likely higher/far higher"
 
I know Ryuko and Ragyo were around at the epicenter, but would the Elite 4 be close enough to the 7-A blast for their dura to be at that level?
 
Don't covers have Country level Dura?

If not, it should be removed from Life Fibers and people should of course not scale for blasting Covers.
 
Ah

The title of the calc itself threw me off then

Wait wtf the fork it doesn't even have COVERs in the title what am I doing
 
We have a lot of verses here that have a + without a calc, hell we have verses that make multiple tier jumps without calcs on the higher levels, i see no reason why we should treat KLK differently. The scaling is fine as it is.
 
Youre going to have to make a massive CRT if you want to try to remove Dragon Ball, PMMM, and Warhammer scaling because they all use it
 
<PMMM

Got removed

<Warhammer

Where?

<Dragon Ball

The only one with a plus is King Piccolo based off an actual feat
 
40K people all scale to calcs, PMMM would tier jump off the multipliers alone if we didn't scale them to 5-A minus a joule, and Dragon Ball is Dragon Ball.
 
Mind sending a few links
 
Idk about nids, let me look into that real quick
 
It was also agreed some time ago that through a large enough scaling chain characters can in fact get a +, Kill La Kill is one of those verses
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Youre going to have to make a massive CRT if you want to try to remove Dragon Ball, PMMM, and Warhammer scaling because they all use it
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So "If others are wrong, I can be wrong too"? Not how it works

The CRT is needed only if you think that a scaling chain warrants the "+", which is written absolutely nowhere
 
PMMM, or Madoka's case in particular is a blatant exception, not something other verses should follow, unless they have characters expotentially growing in power almost a hundred of times.
 
Kaltias said:
PMMM doesn't have anyone with the "+" anyway
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Wanted to say Madoka has it, but apparently she doesn't anymore.

I mean, putting her at 5-B is still a really hard low-ball, and we assume she's 1 joule away from 5-A, no? So why not give her a +?
 
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