A Dirty Recluse (Dirtbot vs Lord Recluse)

[Peppersalt43]

Lord Recluse : 7
Dirtbot : 0
Incon : 0

Speed equalized
Starting distance was 10 meters
7-C versions used

 

[DaReaperMan]

Uh, problem: Statesman's Electricity one-shots those comparable to him, and is willing to pull it out if/when he starts getting overwhelmed or when he's losing

So uh... you should use Lord Recluse instead, while he does have Neurotoxin on every attack, it's not effective enough to just paralyze or murk someone without resistance, so it's just added bite

 

[Peppersalt43]

Uh, problem: Statesman's Electricity one-shots those comparable to him, and is willing to pull it out if/when he starts getting overwhelmed or when he's losing

Hmm, Krypto does have an amp that triples his AP and dura (The Space Suit) though if that's not enough, I guess I can change it

 

[DaReaperMan]

Hmm, Krypto does have an amp that triples his AP and dura (The Space Suit) though if that's not enough, I guess I can change it

The Space Suit could work, but there's still the problem of Statesman constantly applying that AP to Krypto with nothing he can do about it, and Krypto having 3x Statesman's AP would just vastly quicken how long it takes for Statesman to get serious

 

[Peppersalt43]

The Space Suit could work, but there's still the problem of Statesman constantly applying that AP to Krypto with nothing he can do about it, and Krypto having 3x Statesman's AP would just vastly quicken how long it takes for Statesman to get serious

Alright, I'll make the change

 

[DaReaperMan]

Krypto advantages

• Flight
• More conventionally reliable range options
• Better in-character
• Toon Force

Lord Recluse advantages

• Skill
• Unnoticeable AP advantage
• LS Advantage
• Minor Neurotoxin on every hit
• More limbs
• Resists all of Krypto's hax

 

[Peppersalt43]

Krypto advantages

• Flight
• More conventionally reliable range options
• Better in-character
• Toon Force

Lord Recluse advantages

• Skill
• Unnoticeable AP advantage
• LS Advantage
• Minor Neurotoxin on every hit
• More limbs
• More I'm not thinking of

I assume this is the part where we wait for the Krypto supporters (Mostly @Propellus) to respond?

 

[DaReaperMan]

I assume this is the part where we wait for the Krypto supporters (Mostly @Propellus) to respond?

Yeah, Lord Recluse's profile covers most of his stuff

 

[Propellus]

Where does his Class M value come from anyway? His AP value also seems to vary based on his note, which one is being used? And if it's true that the Lord really resists all of Krypto's hax, then I don't really think Krypto really has that much wincons here. Krypto's Toon Force won't really help here as it's not even that good enough. Which kinda seems like a mismatch

 

[DaReaperMan]

Where does his Class M value come from anyway?

Something I somehow got away with because I was tired of waiting for a single calculation to drop a CRT to make my dogshit profiles not dogshit anymore

Statesman yeeting a giant robot while heavily weakened

His AP value also seems to vary based on his note, which one is being used?

Assuming 20 Kilotons for the high-end of the Little Boy

And if it's true that the Lord really resists all of Krypto's hax, then I don't really think Krypto really has that much wincons here.

the wall of resistances don't lie, I could probably point you to specific power sets where XYZ power is resisted

Krypto's Toon Force won't really help here as it's not even that good enough. Which kinda seems like a mismatch

Oof

 

[Peppersalt43]

And if it's true that the Lord really resists all of Krypto's hax, then I don't really think Krypto really has that much wincons here

Is he really that reliant on haxes?

And is there anyone else from the verse you'd suggest to use instead of Krypto?

 

[Propellus]

Is he really that reliant on haxes?

He tends to mix some of his haxes with close combat.

And is there anyone else from the verse you'd suggest to use instead of Krypto?

Have you tried using the Snowman or the Dirtbot?

 

[Propellus]

Something I somehow got away with because I was tired of waiting for a single calculation to drop a CRT to make my dogshit profiles not dogshit anymore

Statesman yeeting a giant robot while heavily weakened

Then get it calced fam, or otherwise I don't really think it should apply without an actual value.

the wall of resistances don't lie, I could probably point you to specific power sets where XYZ power is resisted

Yeah, then that kinda makes this a mismatch then. Krypto tends to mix some of his haxes with close combat

 

[DaReaperMan]

Then get it calced fam, or otherwise I don't really think it should apply without an actual value.

Believe me, I've tried, but math has never been my thing and I've asked like 7 people to do it at this point lol

 

[Peppersalt43]

Have you tried using the Snowman or the Dirtbot?

You really love those two, do you?

Oh well, changed to the Dirtbot

 

[DaReaperMan]

Lord Recluse Surveillance's Dirtbot and proceeds to lead him to fight near water if they weren't near it already, from there it's using superior mobility and a much harder to hit frame to make Dirtbot fall over

 

[Peppersalt43]

Lord Recluse Surveillance's Dirtbot and proceeds to lead him to fight near water if they weren't near it already, from there it's using superior mobility and a much harder to hit frame to make Dirtbot fall over

Should I move the fight to somewhere that wouldn't be an issue?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Should I move the fight to somewhere that wouldn't be an issue?

No because then Dirtbot quickly amps and gets to the point Recluse can't even harm him lol

And before you ask, giving Recluse prep is NOT a solution. I am confident he'd solo the damn verse with prep enough to get the web going

 

[Peppersalt43]

Counted and thank you I suppose

 

[DaReaperMan]

Counted and thank you I suppose

Honestly your best bet for CoH matches is to find someone with mind control resistance and throw then Honoree

He'll still hurt like hell cause he's got mind damage on several attacks

But there's no big thing to watch out for with him otherwise

 

[Propellus]

Wait, how would the Recluse know if the Dirtbot is weak to water? Or is there really water around in the background?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Wait, how would the Recluse know if the Dirtbot is weak to water? Or is there really water around in the background?

Lord Recluse can see the weaknesses and defensive capabilities of those around him borderline passively, and he's not afraid to use anything in his arsenal to achieve victory

 

[Propellus]

Lord Recluse can see the weaknesses and defensive capabilities of those around him borderline passively, and he's not afraid to use anything in his arsenal to achieve victory

How does his surveillance work?

 

[DaReaperMan]

How does his surveillance work?

He looks at you and given like a second of time just knows

Really another reason for genius intelligence

 

[Propellus]

I see, but anyways, Dirtbot should have the physical edge here considering that he massively upscales from Krypto who already massively upscales from 18.15 Kilotons. And he could go even higher if there any more minerals around, considering that it seems that Recluse's LS seems to be only baseline, where as Dirtbot's LS is 3,822,396.4351 kg initially before he's amped, and his Regen is gonna be a big issue to deal with. But Recluse apparently seems to be smarter so he could find a water source to get him near water to melt him. As he does have way faster travel speed than the Dirtbot (The mf was literally outran by kids lmao) does, so I'll just vote for Recluse here

 

[Peppersalt43]

Counted and thank you!

 

[Peppersalt43]

Anyway, bump

 

[Dragonite007]

Recluse FRA

 

[Peppersalt43]

Counted and thank you!

 

[Peppersalt43]

Anyway, bump

 

[Dinamic8000]

Recluse FRA

 

[Peppersalt43]

Counted and thank you!

 

[Cimafranca133]

Lord Recluse FRA

 

[Peppersalt43]

Counted and thank you!

 

[Peppersalt43]

Hey, 2 more votes to grace!

 

[Peppersalt43]

Come on...

 

[Peppersalt43]

2 more...

 

[Peppersalt43]

Bump...

 

[J.J._Chambers]

Recluse FRA

 

[Peppersalt43]

And just to get this concluded

Recluse FRA

And that's grace, thank you everyone

{Also in case you're wondering, this is allowed based on this thread}