9-A Brackets Recruitment Thread

[VersusJunkie54]

Okay but then wouldn't this make this a stomp? Because Akame would have literally no way whatsoever of winning? If her opponent can see her every move, Akame's chances of winning are practically nill

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Okay but then wouldn't this make this a stomp? Because Akame would have literally no way whatsoever of winning? If her opponent can see her every move, Akame's chances of winning are practically nill

You said yourself that if Akame so much as brushes against him he's toast. Daredevil won't usually try and block one of her attacks (He prefers to dodge from what I'm aware of), but in the offchance he does he's dead.

 

[VersusJunkie54]

Okay but then wouldn't this make this a stomp? Because Akame would have literally no way whatsoever of winning? If her opponent can see her every move, Akame's chances of winning are practically nill

You said yourself that if Akame so much as brushes against him he's toast. Daredevil won't usually try and block one of her attacks (He prefers to dodge from what I'm aware of), but in the offchance he does he's dead.

This level of Precog would make the AP irrelevant now that you've provided more information.

A stomp is where a character has no chance to retort with their own abilities or statistics. Akame has 0 chance against someone like this.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Well, higher AP doesn't really matter much when none of your attacks will hit.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Okay but then wouldn't this make this a stomp? Because Akame would have literally no way whatsoever of winning? If her opponent can see her every move, Akame's chances of winning are practically nill

You said yourself that if Akame so much as brushes against him he's toast. Daredevil won't usually try and block one of her attacks (He prefers to dodge from what I'm aware of), but in the offchance he does he's dead.

This level of Precog would make the AP irrelevant now that you've provided more information.
A stomp is where a character has no chance to retort with their own abilities or statistics. Akame has 0 chance against someone like this.

You're assuming Daredevil knows that she outclasses him to begin with. If he starts with blocking or countering, he's dead. Since that's not his usual move, he likely wins.

He would know what she's going to attack with and where, but his precog doesn't tell him the effects of it.

 

[VersusJunkie54]

Didn't you just say that Daredevil doesn't allow himself to be hit? And with his precog, and considering he's gone against characters much more skilled than Akame, he won't be hit, period.

This is a stomp. Akame has no way around precog of that calibre.

 

[Schnee_One]

Well, higher AP doesn't really matter much when none of your attacks will hit.

It does if they block a strike however

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Didn't you just say that Daredevil doesn't allow himself to be hit? And with his precog, and considering he's gone against characters much more skilled than Akame, he won't be hit, period.
This is a stomp. Akame has no way around precog of that calibre.

Blocking and countering is part of Daredevil's combat style, although it wouldn't be his regular go-to.

If I did, I recind that statement, I likely overexaggerated. I meant to say he would be able to know all of her attacks.

It's purely a matter of how he reacts to them, which would be down to his character.

 

[VersusJunkie54]

Well, higher AP doesn't really matter much when none of your attacks will hit.

It does if they block a strike however

Issue is, Daredevil won't find himself in a position where he needs to block.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

It does if they block a strike however

So, it's not a stomp? Ok, I guess.

 

[VersusJunkie54]

It does if they block a strike however

So, it's not a stomp? Ok, I guess.

No, it still is. Daredevil is unlikely to be in a position where he needs to block. Especially when he is going to know EXACTLY what Akame is going to do, and has fought people arguably more skilled than her.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Ok, so I guess it is a stomp.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I'm just going to ask you to look up scans of Daredevil fighting.

He wouldn't know the outcome of her attacks, just when and where they would hit.

(EDIT) That's why it's called "Psuedo-Precog" on his profile.

How he acts on that knowledge is another story. Just because someone has precog doesn't instantly mean no attacks hit ever. Sure, he's likely more skilled. That doesn't mean he would automatically know that blocking an attack would turn him into a blood spatter.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

So, not a stomp? Nice.

 

[Jinsye]

Btw, I was late but I did ask for the composite Isaac boss to be added so yeah.

 

[VersusJunkie54]

I'm just going to ask you to look up scans of Daredevil fighting.
He wouldn't know the outcome of her attacks, just when and where they would hit.

How he acts on that knowledge is another story. Just because someone has precog doesn't instantly mean no attacks hit ever. Sure, he's likely more skilled. That doesn't mean he would automatically know that blocking an attack would turn him into a blood spatter.

"He wouldn't know the outcome of her attacks"

And? Daredevil doesn't strike me as the type of character to get cocky and let his guard down because he doesn't know how strong someone is.

Considering he has gone up against a multidude of characters that are Hundreds of Thousands of times stronger than him, more skilled than Akame, and overcame them via his Precog, why would he ever find himself in a position where he needed to block?

This is still a stomp, no matter how you spin it.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I'm just going to ask you to look up scans of Daredevil fighting.
He wouldn't know the outcome of her attacks, just when and where they would hit.

How he acts on that knowledge is another story. Just because someone has precog doesn't instantly mean no attacks hit ever. Sure, he's likely more skilled. That doesn't mean he would automatically know that blocking an attack would turn him into a blood spatter.

"He wouldn't know the outcome of her attacks"
And? Daredevil doesn't strike me as the type of character to get cocky and let his guard down because he doesn't know how strong someone is.

Considering he has gone up against a multidude of characters that are Hundreds of Thousands of times stronger than him, more skilled than Akame, and overcame them via his Precog, why would he ever find himself in a position where he needed to block?

This is still a stomp, no matter how you spin it.

He gets defeated by those characters most of the time. Again, look at his fights with Spider-Man.

If there's a small, but reasonable chance that he chooses to block, which is literally in his fighting style, I don't see why it's a stomp. And now you're assuming he overcame multiple higher tier characters in a verse with very strict scaling rules.

Please don't assume things when there is still arguments on either side.

 

[Schnee_One]

Why is it called Psuedo Precog in the first place?

And no, I have seen him fight, even in both forms he is shown blocking a strike.

He can not feasibly block a strike from someone 24x stronger,

Though really, people have a bunch of different opinions here,

Either

1. Stomp because Akame can't even touch him

2. Stomp because she kills him if he so much as blocks a strike.

We probably need more input instead of escalating

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Why is it called Psuedo Precog in the first place?

Because it's done through movement tracking, and not actually seeing the future?

 

[VersusJunkie54]

Why is it called Psuedo Precog in the first place?
And no, I have seen him fight, even in both forms he is shown blocking a strike.

He can not feasibly block a strike from someone 24x stronger,

Though really, people have a bunch of different opinions here,

Either

1. Stomp because Akame can't even touch him

2. Stomp because she kills him if he so much as blocks a strike.

We probably need more input instead of escalating

Akame will literally never touch him, no matter what happens. Even Spider Man's Precog far surpases Zank's Teigu, and Daredevil beat that both in a comic, and per WoG according to the knowledgeable members on Marvel.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Why would she never touch him?

Again, it's not like he automatically knows the AP difference. He was well aware of that fact when fighting most of the higher tiers you're mentioning,

 

[VersusJunkie54]

Why would she never touch him?
Again, it's not like he automatically knows the AP difference. He was well aware of that fact when fighting most of the higher tiers you're mentioning,

Because Daredevil will see all of her moves right away. Why would he lower his guard against someone he is not aware is far stronger than him. If anything, that should make him more cautious.

 

[Schnee_One]

Because it's done through movement tracking, and not actually seeing the future?

And? It doesn't need to specifically see the future to be called precog

Heck, Touma does it by reading movements and its called precog

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

And? It doesn't need to specifically see the future to be called precog

Heck, Touma does it by reading movements and its called precog

I'd ask one of the Marvel experts on it then. Not sure myself if that's the case.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Because Daredevil will see all of her moves right away. Why would he lower his guard against someone he is not aware is far stronger than him. If anything, that should make him more cautious.

Cautious or not, he isn't going to go full Matrix style and dodge everything, he doesn't even usually do that.

I think we've reached an impasse. I'd recommend asking for more input from Marvel/Akame ga Kill! experts.

 

[Schnee_One]

This

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I am neutral on this

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

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