6 paths Madara CRT

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Shouldn't 6 paths Madara have a 5-C, likely higher, higher, far higher key?

Both Naruto and Sasuke have them despite being weaker than Madara, so shouldn't Madara get a similar treatment?

Limbo clones are stated to be equal to the original Madara and he can use up to 4 of them. Logically this would mean he is at least 5 times stronger than Naruto and Sasuke who are in the same tier.

Madara's Susano'o should also be factored into his 6 paths key. It was never stated or implied he lost the ability after he absorbed the 10 tails, and it should increase his stats by a large margin since Susano'o users tend to have better stats when using the Susano'o compared to without.

I also think Madara should get a upgrade with the Rinne-Sharingan which even his profile addresses on the last sentence in the Attack Potency section.


Proposal:

Madara gets: 5-C, higher with Limbo Clones, higher with Susano'o, far higher with Rinne-Sharingan

 

[KingTempest]

What

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

What

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[Bernkastelll]

Shouldn't 6 paths Madara have a 5-C, likely higher, higher, far higher key?

Both Naruto and Sasuke have them despite being weaker than Madara, so shouldn't Madara get a similar treatment?

Limbo clones are stated to be equal to the original Madara and he can use up to 4 of them. Logically this would mean he is at least 5 times stronger than Naruto and Sasuke who are in the same tier.

Madara's Susano'o should also be factored into his 6 paths key. It was never stated or implied he lost the ability after he absorbed the 10 tails, and it should increase his stats by a large margin since Susano'o users tend to have better stats when using the Susano'o compared to without.

I also think Madara should get a upgrade with the Rinne-Sharingan which even his profile addresses on the last sentence in the Attack Potency section.


Proposal:

Madara gets: 5-C, higher with Limbo Clones, higher with Susano'o, far higher with Rinne-Sharingan

Uh, please explain it better

 

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Uh, please explain it better

Shouldn't Madara have a 5-C higher key? Limbo clones, Susano'o and the Rinne-Sharingan increases strength so shouldn't that be factored into Madara's tier.

For example: Naruto has 5-C, higher with Kurama Avatar, far higher with Six Paths Kurama Avatar

Madara should get something similar.

 

[theultimate5105]

Limbos are equal to the user

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Limbo clones are stated to be equal to the original Madara and he can use up to 4 of them. Logically this would mean he is at least 5 times stronger than Naruto and Sasuke who are in the same tier.

The math is insane /s

 

[Ratherlarge]

Limbos are equal to the user

Yeah they are.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

I'm pretty it's for the same reason we don't count characters who can duplicate themselves.

 

[theultimate5105]

Yeah they are.

If we made it Higher with Limbos literally every character in naruto would have Higher-Far Higher with clones (Naruto with literal tens of thousands comes to mind)
duplicating doesn't make you multiple times stronger then what you scale to

 

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If we made it Higher with Limbos literally every character in naruto would have Higher-Far Higher with clones (Naruto with literal tens of thousands comes to mind)
duplicating doesn't make you multiple times stronger then what you scale to

But don't other types of clones split the chakra between them? Madara's Limbo clones don't share chakra with each other.

 

[Tdjwo]

If we made it Higher with Limbos literally every character in naruto would have Higher-Far Higher with clones (Naruto with literal tens of thousands comes to mind)
duplicating doesn't make you multiple times stronger then what you scale to

Not really. What the dude is saying seems sensible. Limbo clones are direct copies of Madara from a different dimension. They arent duplicates like shadow clones. Its basically 4 Madaras instead of 1/4 Madaras. He should get the far higher key via limbos

 

[Tdjwo]

Shouldn't 6 paths Madara have a 5-C, likely higher, higher, far higher key?

Both Naruto and Sasuke have them despite being weaker than Madara, so shouldn't Madara get a similar treatment?

Limbo clones are stated to be equal to the original Madara and he can use up to 4 of them. Logically this would mean he is at least 5 times stronger than Naruto and Sasuke who are in the same tier.

Madara's Susano'o should also be factored into his 6 paths key. It was never stated or implied he lost the ability after he absorbed the 10 tails, and it should increase his stats by a large margin since Susano'o users tend to have better stats when using the Susano'o compared to without.

I also think Madara should get a upgrade with the Rinne-Sharingan which even his profile addresses on the last sentence in the Attack Potency section.


Proposal:

Madara gets: 5-C, higher with Limbo Clones, higher with Susano'o, far higher with Rinne-Sharingan

Males perfect sense to me.

 

[LordTracer]

Limbo clones are stated to be equal to the original Madara and he can use up to 4 of them. Logically this would mean he is at least 5 times stronger than Naruto and Sasuke who are in the same tier.

That’s not how it works. The Limbo clones are equal to Madara himself, and said Limbo clones were comparable to SPSM Naruto.

Madara's Susano'o should also be factored into his 6 paths key. It was never stated or implied he lost the ability after he absorbed the 10 tails, and it should increase his stats by a large margin since Susano'o users tend to have better stats when using the Susano'o compared to without.

Madara never used his Susano’o after becoming the Juubi’s jinchūriki, so it’s not listed.

I also think Madara should get a upgrade with the Rinne-Sharingan which even his profile addresses on the last sentence in the Attack Potency section.

This actually makes sense, he should have a “higher with Rinne-Sharingan.”

 

[GTsek]

Honestly, I also think the current scale of the God Tiers is crap, but I think there must be CRT's being prepared for review and one day they will get there.

It also doesn't enter my mind that Juubito and Juubidara (pre-shinju) are weaker than Toneri, Kinshiki and Momoshiki (Base). Toneri took One Shot from Naruto without Rikudō Mode and lost, Momoshiki base was pressioned by Gaara and Darui... Anyway, Juubidara directly blocks an attack from Naruto Rikudō Mode, I don't think Naruto with Kurama Mode + Sage Mode common is stronger than the War Rikudō Mode version. And it's not like the shinju had upgrade Madara from Country level to Moon level just by absorbing the chakra of mere shinobis.

 

[LordTracer]

Kinda derailing, but yes, there will be a god tier revision in the future.

 

[Deceived3596]

OP's smoking straight doinks...

But agree with LordTracer's observations.

 

[GTsek]

About Susanoo, why do we assume he can't use it anymore? He was able to use even without his eyes, it is more correct to assume that the Gudodamas were a better defense than to assume that he simply lost the capacity to use

 

[LordTracer]

About Susanoo, why do we assume he can't use it anymore? He was able to use even without his eyes, it is more correct to assume that the Gudodamas were a better defense than to assume that he simply lost the capacity to use

Literally nobody said he can’t use it anymore…

 

[GTsek]

So, what the reason to not listed in the Jinchuuriki key?

 

[LordTracer]

Probably because he never used his Susano’o as a Juubi jinchūriki.

Also his P&A says that he has all previous abilities greatly enhanced, which would include the Susano’o, so the profile acknowledges that he can still use it.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Well that should he checked out or is this a case of there is no reason why he shouldn’t be able to use it?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Well that should he checked out or is this a case of there is no reason why he shouldn’t be able to use it?

He literally stopped using abilities that didn't come from the Jūbi or Rinnegan because of PIS, same as Jūbito except Jūbito is even worse because he didn't even use his Rinnegan powers in that form except for like once.

 

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He literally stopped using abilities that didn't come from the Jūbi or Rinnegan because of PIS, same as Jūbito except Jūbito is even worse because he didn't even use his Rinnegan powers in that form except for like once.

Yeah, Obito's Kamui was even restricted in his 10 tails form which is why we know he can't use it. There's nothing suggesting Madara lost any of his abilities when he became the 10 tails jinchuriki.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

LordTracer is definitely correct here.

Madara can use the Susano'o, but it's irrelevant to list on his profile as he's never actually used it in that form.

And needless to say, duplicating yourself doesn't multiply your AP unless the clones use combined attacks or something, which doesn't apply to Madara since he never does that.

Anyway, Madara's keys will be heavily revised when we get to the God tiers' portion of the revisions, so no worries there.

 

[Tdjwo]

Madara never dupliacted himself with Limbos tho. Limbos are their own seperate entity. 4 limbos=4 Madaras. 4 Madara clones doesnt equal 4 madaras. Limbos should multiply Madara's AP.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Madara never dupliacted himself with Limbos tho. Limbos are their own seperate entity. 4 limbos=4 Madaras. 4 Madara clones doesnt equal 4 madaras. Limbos should multiply Madara's AP.

No, they don't multiple AP in that regard. Unless they literally combined their power into one single attack, we don't multiple Madara's AP just because there are 4 more Madara's.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Madara never dupliacted himself with Limbos tho. Limbos are their own seperate entity. 4 limbos=4 Madaras. 4 Madara clones doesnt equal 4 madaras. Limbos should multiply Madara's AP.

Bro, that's quite literally the same thing. 4 clones, 4 Madaras, it doesn't matter.
We don't combine the AP of separate entities unless they combine their attacks into one, pool their energy together, or have some sort of mechanic that makes it so. It's not something we do by default, at all.