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Hard disagree
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5-C No Watch Ben
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Can you explain why?
Its may be ironic but there is nothing anti-feat and its acceptable
Its ironic but I agree
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A couple of things that could easily be outliers doesn't at all justify Tier 5 for regular humans
I'd understand like, 9-B for instance, but 5-C? Yeah no
I'd understand like, 9-B for instance, but 5-C? Yeah no
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Those are the only feats he has. There are like no anti feats against it
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You definitely need more to suggest that suddenly all regular humans in Ben 10 are 5-C - especially when the context of the setting very much indicates they're just regular guys. Like, I'd understand a Tier 9 upgrade to some degree since that tends to happen with fictional "regular" humans, but 5-C? Definitely not.
I'm pretty much entirely with Firestorm on this matter
I'm pretty much entirely with Firestorm on this matter
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Not when we're taking these two little things and giving them more importance than the overall context of these people being regular humans for... reasons, I guess. Like, no, I'm not buying into that
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It just objectively is an appeal to incredulity. I was only joking tho.
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Jokes aside, though, it isn't "objectively" one. In context, it just doesn't make sense with the story
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Is your logic not just based on one being more outlandish than the other?
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I mean, in-context, no watch Ben is legit treated as a completely average guy on all fronts. Not exactly convincing me he should be Tier 5
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Me when a single word suddenly means "argument from incredulity" lol
A couple of dismissible things should not outweigh the context given to us
A couple of dismissible things should not outweigh the context given to us
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There is literally no difference between Ben being a normal human who's 9-B and one who's 5-C. If you said "A normal human shouldn't be anything higher than 10-B so 5-C is outlandish", I'd probably still find issue because normal doesn't necessarily mean in real life, maybe 5-C is normal for humans in that verse but I would still see your point. However you just stated that despite being normal humans, 9-B would be understandable. I don't see what context you have to say 9-B regular humans is reasonable but 5-C is outlandish. That's textbook argument from incredulity. Regardless as I said, I was joking so I'll stop derailing the thread now.
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There is a difference by quintillions of times.
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Can't wait for Montgomery Gator vs Prime Whiteboard let's gooooo!
In all seriousness, it's a massive difference. Like, literally in the quadrillions of difference as far as power. It's a lot easier for an audience and writers to accept someone jumping through a wall and still being "human", versus a guy blowing up the moon and trying to say that he's a "normal guy".
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Flashback to that scene from Aqua Teen Hunger Force where the random shopkeeper blows up the moon with a rocket launcher because he was tired of it being there.
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Yeah, like... Regular humans in fiction doing Tier 9 stuff is actually pretty commonplace. Tier 5? Not so much...
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I also disagree with this. Vilgax seemed to be badly damaged before Ben kicked him, and Ben doesn't necessarily need Moon level AP to knock his body back.
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For reference, the staff vote tally right now is:
Agree: Propellus
Disagree: Firestorm808, Crabwhale, Damage3245
Neutral:
Agree: Propellus
Disagree: Firestorm808, Crabwhale, Damage3245
Neutral:
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I guess outliers don’t exist
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In that case, I'd say the thread's been... pretty thoroughly rejected. Would it be good to close this?
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