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Schnee One said:
<Its that the reason that stop Vader from just abusing force choking against anyone, including Palpatine?

Because they have lifting strength, not AP

AP doesn't do shit against TK, Higher Lifting Stregnth does.
~COMMITS RESET~
 
Schnee One said:
is that the reason that stop Vader from just abusing force choking against anyone, including Palpatine?

Because they have lifting strength, not AP

AP doesn't do shit against TK, Higher Lifting Stregnth does.
and it only works against low level telekinesis. Higher level telekinesis requires flight to struggle through. Even higher levels (e.g. messing with internal organs or even cellular levels) require body control to similar levels to counter - the optimal counter is a resistance to telekinesis of course.
 
I don't see how in the world TK is supposed to affect someone an order of magnitudes more than what they've affected.

Lifting Strength (or in this case, crushing) is at least correlated with destructive capacity. An Explosion WILL crush you as much as it does maim or cut you given the appropriate magnitude.

So I find the notion that Vader is somehow going to crush someone that for all intents and purposes will survive the weight of a Stellar Explosion occurring on top of his face to be dubious at best, absolutely stupid at worst.
 
I never said Vegeta wins, just that the arguments for TK defeating Vegeta is fundamentally wrong. The phrase "AP doesn't have anything to do with Lifting strength" is scientifically incorrect.
 
Basically, you can't balance this matchup. If Vader is allowed to act, he wins and there's nothing Vegeta can do about it. Vegeta's only hope is to prevent Vader from doing anything but he'd need to be so fast that is would basically be a speed stomp. No matter what way you look at it the matchup isn't good.

Vader will always win with speed equal. That's a stomp.

If Vegeta is too slow, Vader wins with speed unequal. Stomp and at this point Vader wins no matter what.

If Vegeta is that fast, then he's only winning due to speed unequal which make it a mismatch as speed will determine the winner rather than putting them on equal playing field.
 
C2 of Omegon said:
Basically, you can't balance this matchup. If Vader is allowed to act, he wins and there's nothing Vegeta can do about it. Vegeta's only hope is to prevent Vader from doing anything but he'd need to be so fast that is would basically be a speed stomp. No matter what way you look at it the matchup isn't good.
Vader will always win with speed equal. That's a stomp.

If Vegeta is too slow, Vader wins with speed unequal. Stomp and at this point Vader wins no matter what.

If Vegeta is that fast, then he's only winning due to speed unequal which make it a mismatch as speed will determine the winner rather than putting them on equal playing field.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeah......... Close this thread, and write "Mismatch".
 
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