[3-2-0] How many of us have them? Friends! - Rexxar vs Guardians Of The Galaxy

[Nonynho]

Fight's at Eixo Monumental, just because.
Everyone's 7-A
Volume 2 Guardians used (there are some v3 stuff, but i think the profile'd need some updates to properly talk about v3)
Equal Speed (Everybody at Subsonic)
5min of prep, no prior knowledge

Few Stats Facts:
7-A Rexxar and friends at 259,8 megatons vs 7-A Guardians at 348.8678 megatons (~1,3x AP for the Guardians)
Class Y vs Class G... Yeah.

"Only beasts are above deceit"- @MaskedDragon908, @Nonynho, @BlackDarkness679

"Was that one of Quill's musics?"- @Rex_Eckles, @DaReaperMan

No, that was an MF DOOM reference (incon)-

 

[DaReaperMan]

Keep in mind Rexxar and co. scales a stomp and three one-shots above his value, so the difference is nonexistent.

Rexxar​

The Mok'nathal with the plan... yeahahaha. He's a certified skill monster who casually communicates non-verbally in army fights and can just solo them just as well. We're talking Mages, other hunters, paladins, etcetera. Two full Armies at the same time from a lesser fighter than Rexxar in Nathanos Blightcaller. So yeah, on his own he's nasty, but...

Misha​

Have you ever been mauled by a Grizzly bear? Well, make it bigger, make it heal, and make it a big ******* damage sponge, and you have Misha. Genuinely, besides Rexxar she might be the biggest problem here, because nobody can like, stop her from doing her job? If, say, Rocket is busy shooting her, he can't also shoot Leokk or Spirit or Huffer. Speaking of which...

Huffer​

Big ******' pig with big ******' tusks that beats the ass of anything stupid enough to get near it, with some decent AoE, though admittedly Huffer is probably the weakest link here.

Leokk​

Big Wyvern with big wings with smoke bombs to dome fools with. Not much to Say about Leok, honestly. Spirit is just bird who does bird things and throws lightning at people, too.

The big problem for the guardians is how much dead weight they've got, AKA Mantis and Baby Groot. Both would not survive this fight in any way.

 

[Nonynho]

Keep in mind Rexxar and co. scales a stomp and three one-shots above his value, so the difference is nonexistent.

Is there a scaling chain somewhere for me to index properly in the OP section speaking about the stats?

Huffer​

Big ******' pig with big ******' tusks that beats the ass of anything stupid enough to get near it, with some decent AoE, though admittedly Huffer is probably the weakest link here.

Adding 2 cents, i think Drax either dies trying to compete in someway involving LS (like attempting to stop its rush or something alike) for Huffer 90% of the time, and the other 10% something like that but for Misha.

Long story short let's not count on Drax here cuz he immediately dies lol

Leokk​

Big Wyvern with big wings with smoke bombs to dome fools with. Not much to Say about Leok, honestly. Spirit is just bird who does bird things and throws lightning at people, too.

TBF with the guardians i think i see Nebula and Gamora being able to end him at some point in the fight
And TBF with Rexxar and friend it's the only one i can see to die consistently lol

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Do the Guardians have any effective strategies?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Is there a scaling chain somewhere for me to index properly in the OP section speaking about the stats?

Not with scans, but basically Its Fodder Elite Soldiers<<Basic ******* like Samuro, etcetera<<<Thrall(one-shots basic *******)<<<Mannoroth(One-shots Thrall)<<<Grommash/Rexxar(Grom one-shot Mannoroth)

Adding 2 cents, i think Drax either dies trying to compete in someway involving LS (like attempting to stop its rush or something alike) for Huffer 90% of the time, and the other 10% something like that but for Misha.

Long story short let's not count on Drax here cuz he immediately dies lol

He could just lift them, it's not like they're stuck to the ground via Robocop spikes.

 

[Nonynho]

He could just lift them, it's not like they're stuck to the ground via Robocop spikes.

He doesn't have the LS to do so

Class Y vs Class G... Yeah.

 

[Nonynho]

Do the Guardians have any effective strategies?

By the time of V2 they are kinda coordinated and can act together as a team with effectiveness

tbh i just didn't put V3's Guardians because they lack the profile detailing, because they are much much better-coordinated

 

[Nonynho]

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[DaReaperMan]

He doesn't have the LS to do so

I didn't know a big bear weighed the same as a ******* planet.

 

[Nonynho]

I didn't know a big bear weighed the same as a ******* planet.

In my comprehension, LS is the force you can exert, and the bear don't want to be lifted so it'll force itself down or in whatever direction and likely crush at least one of Drax's limbs if not him entirely

And that's why i think Drax'll die very very quickly and be a non-factor here

 

[DaReaperMan]

In my comprehension, LS is the force you can exert, and the bear don't want to be lifted so it'll force itself down or in whatever direction and likely crush at least one of Drax's limbs if not him entirely

And that's why i think Drax'll die very very quickly and be a non-factor here

Do you see Gravity Manipulation on those profiles? Or the existence of Robocop-style foor anchors?

 

[Nonynho]

Do you see Gravity Manipulation on those profiles? Or the existence of Robocop-style foor anchors?

If somebody's grabbing you or trying to push you for a wall and you have way greater LS, you can resist this push by pushing back, no?
No need for gravity manip or something alike afaik

 

[MaskedDragon908]

In my comprehension, LS is the force you can exert

Correct.

If somebody's grabbing you or trying to push you for a wall and you have way greater LS, you can resist this push by pushing back, no?

If you have a way to resist, sure.
Being lifted into the air is problematic because you lose most sources of leverage.
In addition, animals are generally at a disadvantage due to their limited intelligence and anatomy.
They don't really understand grappling, and their bodies can't perform the same maneuvers a humanoid can.

Drax won't be able to pull this off 100% of the time, but it is effective if he can.
He also has the Striking Strength to halt a charge, although, as you said, he would lose in any extended contest of strength.

Rexxar​

The Mok'nathal with the plan... yeahahaha. He's a certified skill monster who casually communicates non-verbally in army fights and can just solo them just as well.

Misha​

Have you ever been mauled by a Grizzly bear? Well, make it bigger, make it heal, and make it a big ******* damage sponge, and you have Misha. Genuinely, besides Rexxar she might be the biggest problem here, because nobody can like, stop her from doing her job?

Yeah, those two need to be dealt with, and of the Guardians,
Quill's Quad Blasters do have some nice Deconstruction, and he's a decent shot, which helps a little.
Of course, he's in a key where he might decide to get into close quarters, which probably won't end well for him.
Masked also isn't sure how effective Yondu's Yaka Arrow is going to be, although it does have piercing damage on its side.
As you mentioned, Rocket could focus his fire on Misha as well, but not sure if he can get a bead on Rexxar.

Basically, Masked reasons that if the Guardians get lucky they might be able to take out the animals and focus on Rexxar, which gives them a chance.
It's just not very likely, so
Masked will be voting for Rexxar, FRA and simply due to the fact that there's not really anyone on the Guardians that can deal with him.
Misha being able to heal passively is also a serious problem.

 

[Nonynho]

i'd agree we can already start voting, and i'll go with Rexxar too, FRA

 

[DaReaperMan]

Correct.



If you have a way to resist, sure.
Being lifted into the air is problematic because you lose most sources of leverage.
In addition, animals are generally at a disadvantage due to their limited intelligence and anatomy.
They don't really understand grappling, and their bodies can't perform the same maneuvers a humanoid can.

Drax won't be able to pull this off 100% of the time, but it is effective if he can.
He also has the Striking Strength to halt a charge, although, as you said, he would lose in any extended contest of strength.



Quill's Quad Blasters do have some nice Deconstruction, and he's a decent shot, which helps a little.
Of course, he's in a key where he might decide to get into close quarters, which probably won't end well for him.
Masked also isn't sure how effective Yondu's Yaka Arrow is going to be, although it does have piercing damage on its side.

Basically, Masked reasons that if the Guardians get lucky they might be able to take out the animals and focus on Rexxar, which gives them a chance.
It's just not very likely, so
Masked will be voting for Rexxar, FRA and simply due to the fact that there's not really anyone on the Guardians that can deal with him.
Misha being able to heal passively is also a serious problem.

Keep in mind the problem with Rexxar is that every companion killed he gets 100% stronger, so like if Spirit and Leokk died, he'd be 200% stronger and that mutates into a 2x AP advantage on top of Rexxar's other rage power

 

[RoTt35]

What is their response to Star-Lord's regeneration/immortality and matter hax? Or to blasters that can disperse molecules? The guardians can also fly at MHS+ with Aero-Rigs

 

[DaReaperMan]

What is their response to Star-Lord's regeneration/immortality and matter hax? Or to blasters that can disperse molecules? The guardians can also fly at MHS+ with Aero-Rigs

Choke him out? Crush him? Take his limbs off? Plus, Rexxar has healing, and I doubt those blasters delete people from my memories of GotG.

Plus, does he ever actually regen on-screen?

 

[RoTt35]

Choke him out? Crush him? Take his limbs off? Plus, Rexxar has healing, and I doubt those blasters delete people from my memories of GotG.

Plus, does he ever actually regen on-screen?

Star-Lord as a Celestial has High regen and Self-Sustenance, and his blasters can disperse molecules through the holes it makes, it doesn't deconstruct the whole body

 

[DaReaperMan]

Star-Lord as a Celestial has High regen

Plus, does he ever actually regen on-screen?

I wonder what this question leads to...

and Self-Sustenance

fair nuff

and his blasters can disperse molecules through the holes it makes, it doesn't deconstruct the whole body

so... Rexxar heals it. Easily.

 

[RoTt35]

I wonder what this question leads to...

He is the same as Ego, who regenerated from his light and then molecules

so... Rexxar heals it. Easily.

Can he heal from having his head and organs disintegrated? His profile doesn't specify the type of his Healing

 

[Rex_Eckles]

I’m leaning towards and voting for Reexar FRA.

 

[Nonynho]

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[DaReaperMan]

He is the same as Ego, who regenerated from his light and then molecules

So Starlord has never regenned?

Can he heal from having his head and organs disintegrated? His profile doesn't specify the type of his Healing

One: You're not Supposed to specify that
Two: If you gave Quill a year to try to do so he's never landing a shot on Rexxar
Three: Anything Stopping Rexxar from hitting him hard enough with a blunt attack?

 

[RoTt35]

So Starlord has never regenned?

Yes

One: You're not Supposed to specify that

You do:

It should be noted that the degree of the ability, whenever possible, should be specified with the same system used for Regeneration, so, for example, someone that has displayed the capability to heal others up to a "Mid" level would be specified with the respective prefix.

Two: If you gave Quill a year to try to do so he's never landing a shot on Rexxar

Are you arguing that none of the guardians could ever land a single shot on him despite his speed being equal to theirs with their own weapons being faster than them?

Three: Anything Stopping Rexxar from hitting him hard enough with a blunt attack?

Celestial physiology, immortality, regen, etc

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yes

(≖_≖ )

You do:

Well, I was told opposite a few years back. Seems times change.

Are you arguing that none of the guardians could ever land a single shot on him despite his speed being equal to theirs with their own weapons being faster than them?

Are you arguing that any of them are better than two armies full of mages, warriors, gun-using hunters, priests, Paladins, and basically the whole WoW Rogue's gallery? Because I bet you ain't. Rexxar is a skill monster in his own right.

Celestial physiology, immortality, regen, etc

That doesn't say "I cannot be knocked out"

 

[RoTt35]

Are you arguing that any of them are better than two armies full of mages, warriors, gun-using hunters, priests, Paladins, and basically the whole WoW Rogue's gallery? Because I bet you ain't. Rexxar is a skill monster in his own right.

I'm asking because I don't know, so if he can simply dodge anything the guardians fire at him, most of them wouldn't be able to do anything since they just shoot

That doesn't say "I cannot be knocked out"

Celestials can only be forcibly put to sleep/knocked out through hax, can function without a body and regenerate them since their true form is their light/energy, which is infinite

But so far it seems he just heals and skill stomps the Guardians, but as Star-Lord can't die it would be incon at best (for them), if he has something to put Quill down then I don't see any win con for the Guardians

 

[DaReaperMan]

I'm asking because I don't know, so if he can simply dodge anything the guardians fire at him, most of them wouldn't be able to do anything since they just shoot

Celestials can only be forcibly put to sleep/knocked out through hax, can function without a body and regenerate them since their true form is their light/energy, which is infinite

But so far it seems he just heals and skill stomps the Guardians, but as Star-Lord can't die it would be incon at best (for them), if he has something to put Quill down then I don't see any win con for the Guardians

Honestly what's Quill's stamina like? Like, for prolonged engagements?

 

[RoTt35]

Honestly what's Quill's stamina like? Like, for prolonged engagements?

In combat he fought continuously against Ego until he lost his powers for killing him, since as a Celestial (who are eternal) his powers, immortality and invulnerability come from Ego's light, which is infinite energy. Ego was also going to use Quill as a living battery and absorb his energy continuously for thousands of years

 

[DaReaperMan]

In combat he fought continuously against Ego until he lost his powers for killing him, since as a Celestial (who are eternal) his powers, immortality and invulnerability come from Ego's light, which is infinite energy. Ego was also going to use Quill as a living battery and absorb his energy continuously for thousands of years

Then yeah Quill probably just outlasts Rexxar. This isn't Kil'Jaeden or Archimonde so we don't have thousands upon thousands of years of stamina.

 

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[BlackDarkness679]

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