"a god of destruction is unnecessary" infinite Ultron vs Beerus

[Spinoirr]

Speed is equal and both are low 2-C and both are bloodlusted with the fight taken place on Beerus' planet. We all knew this was going to happen eventually

Infinite Ultron:
Beerus:
Icon: 7

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Unless Beerus goes for Hakai as an opener, Ultron has tons of options to end him. Reality warp him into a fish, stop time and phase through him, grow to the size of a galaxy and eat him, etc.

 

[Spinoirr]

However Ultron also doesn't open with haxs

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

What is ultra man's opening move?

 

[Urshani]

What is ultra man's opening move?

ultra dude punches

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Beerus probably one shots if Ultron goes for melee, as Beerus is massively above baseline Low 2-C while Ultron is like only somewhat above baseline. That and Beerus is a much more skilled combatant

 

[Spinoirr]

Beerus probably one shots if Ultron goes for melee, as Beerus is massively above baseline Low 2-C while Ultron is like only somewhat above baseline. That and Beerus is a much more skilled combatant

Should I bloodlust Ultron or both?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Probably better

 

[Spinoirr]

Probably better

Just Ultron gets bloodlusted?

 

[Spinoirr]

Also Ultron punches do have 4D reality warping

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Just Ultron gets bloodlusted?

I guess both

 

[sanicspood]

Yea both

 

[Spinoirr]

They are now both bloodlusted

 

[Orange]

Beerus goes for hakai then, what can Ultron do

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Unless Beerus goes for Hakai as an opener, Ultron has tons of options to end him. Reality warp him into a fish, stop time and phase through him, grow to the size of a galaxy and eat him, etc.

^

Ultron could also use time freeze to stop any of Beerus' attacks coming to him.

 

[Orange]

Hmm I see, what's ultron's answer for paralysis inducement

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Hmm I see, what's ultron's answer for paralysis inducement

How does it work?

Ultron's attack speed is also much higher than his normal speed meaning that Beerus would struggle reacting to them, and it'll be worse if Ultron goes giant.

 

[Orange]

How does it work?

Ultron's attack speed is also much higher than his normal speed meaning that Beerus would struggle reacting to them, and it'll be worse if Ultron goes giant.

he just points a finger or looks at you I think.

Beerus has instinctive reaction, ki sensing, resistance to sensing and is a better fighter, so speed isn't a problem for him

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Does his instinctive reaction allow him to react to an attack thousands of times faster than his normal speed?

 

[Orange]

Does his instinctive reaction allow him to react to an attack thousands of times faster than his normal speed?

When did Ultron have such speeds?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Read the profile

 

[Spinoirr]

Speed is equal

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Speed is equal

I know, but speed is equalized to the slower opponent, and Ultron has attack speeds far greater than his own. Only the base speed is equalized.

 

[Spinoirr]

Ah if that's so then should Ultron even need to be bloodlusted too?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Yes because without that, he goes for the melee or an energy blast, neither of which could harm Beerus due to the sheer AP gap

 

[Spinoirr]

Ah alright

 

[Orange]

I'm either blind or the profile doesn't state anything about his attack speed being thousands of times faster

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

At least Sub-Relativistic, likely far higher (Should be faster than his Sentries, which flew from space and destroyed Ego in seconds. Immensely superior to Captain Marvel and can keep up with the likes of Doctor Strange Supreme) with Massively FTL+ attack speed and Massively FTL+ with Size Manipulation (Grew to such a large size until his head dwarfed the milky way galaxy)

 

[Orange]

I see I see.
But I heard using any multiplier or abilities to increase speed to the point of blitzing isn't Allowed?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

It isn't multiplying tho?

 

[Rez]

I know, but speed is equalized to the slower opponent, and Ultron has attack speeds far greater than his own. Only the base speed is equalized.

Combat Speed is equalised not base speed

The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc.

 

[Tyranno223]

Pretty sure speed equalisation equalises all stats, outside of multiplications (Dyspo's light bullet for instance).

Ultron is not blitzing, and if both are bloodlusted, this is yet another inconclusive, without it, Beerus wins 8/10.

 

[Rez]

Pretty sure speed equalisation equalises all stats, outside of multiplications (Dyspo's light bullet for instance).

Yeah Ultron is not blitzing

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

?

I was told only base speed is equalized in speed equalized. Lemme check.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Ok so I was fed lies apparently. ****

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Speed equalized does not include relative speed. If a character has reaction speeds faster than their movement, that difference is maintained in speed equalized.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

When speed is equalized, the combat speed of the characters are equalized, and every other different speed statistic is altered by the same multiplier that the combat speed was.
Anyway, ki blast gg.

 

[sanicspood]

What stops ultron from time stopping?

 

[Eseseso]

Right now I'm incon. Ultron got hax but Beerus got Hakai and (from what others have said) speed as well.

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

I mean, wouldn't Ultron's Hive Mind Type 1 allow him to survive the Hakai, try to avoid Beerus's EE and use a better hax against him to have a chance to win?