1-A, possibly High 1-A Franklin Richards Upgrade Thread

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Whelp. This was a long time coming. The following is a list of feats I gathered about Franklin. I figured these would be more than enough for an upgrade: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:PrincessofGods/FRUpgrade

• He was shown overpowering an amped Mephisto, the very same Mephisto who was blatantly overpowering Doctor Strange in a contest of ability
• Consistently referred to as the most powerful mutant of all time, especially during Hickman's Run and History of the Marvel Universe, putting him above Mutants such as Jamie jaspers, Nate Grey, Phoenix, etc, all who have shown 1-A or higher Feats
• Roma described him as capable of reshaping the entire Cosmos and capable of destroying Everything. Roma is aware of an High 1-A Cosmology considering the Otherworld she observes and the fact the exact same issues this statement comes from has it stated that Roma watches every level of the Ominverse. As a result, the context of Cosmos would refer to the entirety of it as well, as it'd make no sense for Franklin to be capable of only shaping lesser than that if Roma is hyping him up as capable of destroying everything in her view. Tie in handbook statement refers to the idea that the Captain Britain Corps were worried that Franklin might destroy the Multiverse with his powers, heavily implying he has the ability to do it, especially since once again they'd be aware of the High 1-A Cosmology via Otherworld.
• Stated to be a threat to every plane of existence.
• Harmed Nightmare as well as Phoenix Force Rachel, as well as defeating Phoenix Force Rachel. Phoenix Force Rachel has shown a multitude of absurd feats during the Excalibur run, varying from 1-A to High 1-A due to scaling to the Otherworld, a High 1-A Structure.
• Even way before the Heroes Reborn his powers were consistently referred to as a threat to the timeline.

So, because of this, I believe a "1-A, possibly High 1-A" is necessary for him.

 

[Excellence616]

Looks okay. Even him being equal to Eternity and Infinity is enough to give him 1-A.

 

[Robo432343]

franky the goat

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Thank you for the feedback !

Oh. Also. A proposal I've been meaning to do for a long time: Franklin should be a smurf regardless. What I mean by that is that he isn't automatically 1-A/High 1-A. He's like Molecule Man in the sense he's just a regular human who just so happens to be able to tap into his power to perform impressive feats. Plus, the only times he's ever amped his physical stats to that level was during Hickman's Run and Fantastic Four Volume 6 when he fought that Other-Dimensional Entity briefly.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Bump.

 

[Dreamer23421]

Looks good

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Looks good

Thanks for your feedback

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Bump.

 

[Alsotime]

BUMP

I personally agree completely, especially since the wiki uses him making a well fed Galactus his herald as a feat, and well fed Galactus is considered to be 1a.

High Hyperverse level (Significantly more powerful than his child self. Made a well-fed Galactus his Herald)

1-A when sufficiently fed

 

[Alsotime]

I figured these would be more than enough for an upgrade:

If you change the title to mention a 1A marvel revision, it’d probably get some more attention.


Also on this topic, are his feats from daydreamers considered canon by the wiki? I think they’d definitely help support the upgrade

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Fair enough point. Changed.

Unfortunately It's treated as a different continuity. I definitely would've mentioned Daydreamer in my blog if it was still part of the same continuity.

 

[Alsotime]

Unfortunately It's treated as a different continuity.

Is there a reason why? I thought it led into Heroes Reborn?

Regardless, that is unfortunate. Thankfully the scale stills holds out without it.