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the location of the theater is unknown, it could fit pretty much anywhere above bernkastels catbox
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07th expansion cosmology buff due to 07th theater.
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also the dialogue makes it very clear to refer to the series shown as "works". Meaning that it may well not just be the story of umineko recorded in bern's catbox. but thats just headcanon
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the work 'umineko' is different from the story of "Umineko" the work 'umineko' would mean everything in the visual novel, such as featherine's domain. while the story "umineko" would just be whats recorded in the CoB
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I don't know. That's just what I have been told by people that know Trianthology. But even if they do not form a cycle it's still illogical since the Kakeras exist outside each other in the meta world which would be nonsensical as they should be inside each other because of viewing the worlds as fiction. And even ignoring all of that just adding 2-3 layers to the cosmology will not have any significant impact on the overall tiers. Perhaps at most the lower tiered people will be slightly affected like the Beato's territory keys.
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That's just conjecture. Nothing concrete enough to change the cosmology.
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which is why i suggested the "1-B, possibly higher key"
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It's not mentioned as a possibility in the work so you can't give it a possibly rating.
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iirc only the titles of the episodes in umineko have been title dropped as a part of ikuko/featherine's forgeries. So there is a possibility.
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I guess it can be possibly 1-B. Would prefer concrete evidence though. Also 1-A is completely out of the question. Any plane of existence being above the creator's domain within the cosmology sounds dumb. Also voyagers seem to be present in this event(and also appear to have some agency power wise) and they are explicitly below the creator's domain.
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So what are conclusions here?
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Nah, everyone is > Creators. Creator/s are the new Presence
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wank everything!Nah, everyone is > Creators. Creator/s are the new Presence
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let me submit this threat and request a 1-B key
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There's also a new rank, master of ceremonies ( though im not sure if that changes anything)
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Sure, and it is “thread”. :3
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Did any staff agreed with this btw?
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i put it in the content request thread
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Alright
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theres also another new 07th expansion crossover that was released in october this year , have not read that one yet
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could you get staff to look in?
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I believe the masters of ceremonies are shown have the same authority as well, as they were able to bring characters from their work into the theater
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bump
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i made a new version of this thread, sicne this one is starting to become cluttered https://vsbattles.com/threads/07th-expansion-upgrade-mainly-for-higu-higabana-and-rgd-chars.146319/
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idk
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I don’t think them existing outside each other in the meta world really means anything as those are just conceptual representations of them and Trianthology literally addresses that by saying the fragments are independent at first sight but in actuality are connected in the form of a hierarchy.
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This is untrue as we are explicitly told in EP8 that the Kakeras actually contain the worlds(which is the whole basis of tier 1 to begin with). Also repeating something again does not address it. It would still be a logical contradiction. And we aren't really told what this "hierarchy" represents anyway. It could be a hierarchy in which one work comes before another in a metanarrative. This does not need to be an ontological hierarchy. The point is that if they form an ontological hierarchy they would exist inside each other because that's how kakeras should work.
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I need to record staff approval
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But you can do that in this thread, that's how everyone does it. There's 0 reason to make another thread.
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