[0-5-0] Give it a sec' for the pain to start - Jiren vs Angelo & Diablo

[Nonynho]

• First things first - Speed equal
• Fight's at an indestructible arena
• Suppressed Jiren used
  • This guy scales to "the base 6 Universes feat" from DB as a verse
  • Angelo & Diablo may have the profile's stats saying he scales to Delta Dragonoid, but he beat the living s* out of a guy who fights against Ultimate Dragonoid, the one performing "the base 6 Universes feat" from Bakugan as a verse

Basically the most impressive fella -

Coolest conceivable bakugan - @Apollonir.Scale, @Nonynho, @ReverseCross, @TheRealDababye, @BlackDarkness679

They're both aliens lol (incon) -

 

[Mickey1940]

ur pitting Jiren, a guy who scales to Baseline 6U, against 2 guys (i think?) who canonically stomp a baseline 6U

am I missing smthn or is this a stomp

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

I never thought I'd be defending Angelo & Diablo in the great year 2026. Life is full of surprises.

Jiren's LS advantage is largely insignificant. Because Aquos Bakugan can transform themselves into water. This way, he can escape being drowned by Jiren's muscular arms.

He can trap Jiren inside this shield. If Jiren hits the shield, his power will decrease.

He can scare him with Ghost Cell. I don't know how Jiren can escape the scare effect.

We have a Bakugan with a lot of power nulls. With Shade ability and Water Refrain, he can negate Jiren's abilities.

If Jiren approaches for melee, he can negate his stat increases with Fire Wall.

From what I can see, Jiren has no resistance to paralysis stimulant. With Saiam Low, he can restrict his movements and neutralize his power.

Besides these, he can increase his own power, and this is a significant increase. He has an aquos ability that increases his own strength as much as it increases his opponent's.

He has a size advantage. How can Jiren fight someone as big as a building?

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

2 guys (i think?) who canonically stomp a baseline 6U

Actually, they aren't two people. They are two beings but one body. This means they can switch places as much as they want, but they can't both attack Jiren at the same time. When they want to switch places, they do a backflip.

 

[Nonynho]

ur pitting Jiren, a guy who scales to Baseline 6U, against 2 guys (i think?) who canonically stomp a baseline 6U

am I missing smthn or is this a stomp

He just sent the guy flying while he had no reaction, that is certainly not the case for Jiren

I also think nobody would say Diablo and Angelo could stomp Ultimate Dragonoid, so that shouldn't be the case for the guy who scales to him either

 

[Nonynho]

I never thought I'd be defending Angelo & Diablo in the great year 2026. Life is full of surprises.

I never thought i'd see Bakugan being up to date, of course i'd love to see Angelo & Diablo fight if that were to be the case

He can scare him with Ghost Cell. I don't know how Jiren can escape the scare effect.

Willpower is a very large part of DB as a verse and Rage Power is a very large part of this guy's kit, both are decent ways to deal with fear manip/scare effects

We have a Bakugan with a lot of power nulls. With Shade ability and Water Refrain, he can negate Jiren's abilities.

If Jiren approaches for melee, he can negate his stat increases with Fire Wall.

Jiren, being a very cqc oriented fighter should be heavily affected by Fire Wall, but the power nulls shouldn't be a large bother for him iirc

He can trap Jiren inside this shield. If Jiren hits the shield, his power will decrease.

I can see the shield being broken by Jiren rasing his Ki... eventually.



The problem is that it's Jiren's fight style to supress himself less and less as time passes, and he highly outskills, so if he has the chance to have a prolonged CQC stuff might get complicated for Diablo, but i see Angelo not having a muuuuuuch difficult time impeding this from happening and beating him low-mid diff

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Willpower is a very large part of DB as a verse and Rage Power is a very large part of this guy's kit, both are decent ways to deal with fear manip/scare effects

But those affected by Ghost Cell can't use abilities. Ace had to play Trap Bakugan for Percival to escape.

I can see the shield being broken by Jiren rasing his Ki... eventually.

This shield can't be broken with AP, though. And there's something else I forgot to mention: you can't use abilities while inside the shield. So you probably won't be able to empower yourself with Ki.

 

[Nonynho]

But those affected by Ghost Cell can't use abilities. Ace had to play Trap Bakugan for Percival to escape.

Rage Power and Supernatural Willpower are not abilities per se, he's just very brave and also getting very very mad, to the point he's not scare-able lol

And there's something else I forgot to mention: you can't use abilities while inside the shield. So you probably won't be able to empower yourself with Ki.

Then i think the problem will be trapping him inside the shield. Besides most ki users being able to use Analytical Prediction,

• Greater Analytical Prediction (Analyzed the movement of the fast-moving Kachi Katchin and determined that there was no need to dodge. Can predict Hit's movements while using Time-Skip, which can skip and stop time freely to mislead opponents. Even after observing Goku and Kefla's battle, was able to predict Goku's every move in Ultra Instinct -Sign-)

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Rage Power and Supernatural Willpower are not abilities per se, he's just very brave and also getting very very mad, to the point he's not scare-able lol

I understand, so it comes from his talent.

Then i think the problem will be trapping him inside the shield. Besides most ki users being able to use Analytical Prediction,

Is this a hax ability so good that it knows everything about the opponent's abilities?

I don't think this ability is something that sticks to the opponent. The light comes out directly, and as soon as the opponent sees the light, they fall inside the shield.

 

[Nonynho]

Is this a hacking ability so good that it knows everything about the opponent's abilities?

No, he just predicts movements very very well, out of sheer skill

I don't think this ability is something that sticks to the opponent. The light comes out directly, and as soon as the opponent sees the light, they fall inside the shield.

It does seem like something he can avoid being affected by via dodging, per the description

 

[Nonynho]

bump

 

[Nonynho]

Bump

 

[ReverseCross]

Angelo diablo FRA

 

[TheRealDababye]

There is no world where Jiren wins, bakugan character beats top DBS I see...

 

[Mickey1940]

He just sent the guy flying while he had no reaction, that is certainly not the case for Jiren

I also think nobody would say Diablo and Angelo could stomp Ultimate Dragonoid, so that shouldn't be the case for the guy who scales to him either

wdym?

didn't you say in the OP that Diablo and Angelo could clobber someone who's on par with Ultimate Dragonoid?, who's baseline 6U?

Suppressed Jiren is on par with Initial UIO Goku, who is also basline 6U. Making this just Base Jiren instead of Suppressed Jiren might make things more fair since Base Jiren significantly upscales from baseline 6U

 

[Nonynho]

didn't you say in the OP that Diablo and Angelo could clobber someone who's on par with Ultimate Dragonoid?, who's baseline 6U?

That is to say he's able to scale to that, despite his profile saying he scales to a prior form of Dragonoid

The chain should go [Clobbered guy ~ A&D ~ Ultimate Dragonoid], because A&D jumped the guy but that guy fought Ultimate Dragonoid, who A&D are not able to do something like that

Have the message got through? if not i can try again

Making this just Base Jiren instead of Suppressed Jiren might make things more fair since Base Jiren significantly upscales from baseline 6U

That'd require using a Dragonoid full of haxes and then it'd become a boring ass hax battle where one has something very specific and takes weeks for grace to start (and the Dragonoid i'd say scale to him has A F* TON OF HAXES including literally the DNA of all existing bakugan)

There is no world where Jiren wins, bakugan character beats top DBS I see...

kinda
Hakai should be too much for them so no Toppo, Beerus, Belmod etc
They have no way get past UI, so not even UI Sign
And anything beyond the ToP scales too high for Bakugan without hax to endure

Jiren has a chance here because of his very very good prediction and how much he outskills, but if any of Angelo's kit works it's basically gg

Will count you as a voter, tell me if i shouldn't. Speaking of which

Angelo diablo FRA

.

I'll add both of you and myself as A&D voters, tell me if i shouldn't and i'll remove it

 

[BlackDarkness679]

The angel and devil chameleon bakugan FRA

 

[TheRealDababye]

That is to say he's able to scale to that, despite his profile saying he scales to a prior form of Dragonoid

The chain should go [Clobbered guy ~ A&D ~ Ultimate Dragonoid], because A&D jumped the guy but that guy fought Ultimate Dragonoid, who A&D are not able to do something like that

Have the message got through? if not i can try again


That'd require using a Dragonoid full of haxes and then it'd become a boring ass hax battle where one has something very specific and takes weeks for grace to start (and the Dragonoid i'd say scale to him has A F* TON OF HAXES including literally the DNA of all existing bakugan)


kinda
Hakai should be too much for them so no Toppo, Beerus, Belmod etc
They have no way get past UI, so not even UI Sign
And anything beyond the ToP scales too high for Bakugan without hax to endure

Jiren has a chance here because of his very very good prediction and how much he outskills, but if any of Angelo's kit works it's basically gg

Will count you as a voter, tell me if i shouldn't. Speaking of which



I'll add both of you and myself as A&D voters, tell me if i shouldn't and i'll remove it

Yes, it's a stomp for bakugan character

 

[Nonynho]

bump