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  1. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    Don't have alot of time, so I'll just respond to a few points. Perception Manipulation I was going to present in part 2, part was gonna be purely dedicated to hax so I didn't want to rush anything. Needless to say yes, Perception Manipulation gets removed. I was told that Space-Time...
  2. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    It wasn't, I never said that. People jumped to that conclusion by themselves. I even said that part 2 is gonna be "mostly" dedicated to XB2, but still covering the remaining stuff for part 1. Anyway I need to sleep.
  3. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    @Theglassman12 Dude, do you not realize this is titled part 1 for a reason? I want to take care of the big stuff first, most of that was gonna be addressed in part 2.
  4. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    That's only part of the explanation not the entire thing, the Passage of Fate acts as the Causality System yes, but the Precognition all Monado wielders have comes from looking into the Passage of Fate which has dictated and read the past present and future.
  5. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    You're kind of taking that scene a bit out of context, the full quote Zanza says is "Now that I wield both Monados, I should be at one with the Passage of Fate. Why does the vision end here?" This is referring to why he can't see Shulk's future, not that he doesn't take control over the Passage...
  6. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    Homs are based on Zanza's image of what humans are because that is exactly what Zanza was before the phase transitional experiment. The Monado is a blade literally made of Ether. Homs aren't necessarily immune to it, but more so resistant because Zanza states that it's in shackles, and shulk is...
  7. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    @Ultima Reality Earlier you stated that the being "beyond space and time" doesn't actually refer to the Passage of Fate itself, it refers to its power being used to create another reality that exists part from the multiverse. That's not true, I explained earlier that it's the power of the...
  8. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    The Conduit was responsible for a Space-Time transition that split a Low 2-C universe into an Infinite Number of Universes. Through the process of something called "Phenomenon Shift" it manipulates Infinite Possibilities of those with the most desired outcome and those with probabilities as low...
  9. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    It doesn't say "Outside" of Space-Time, it's specifically states "Beyond" it, those two are very different things. Combine that with the Architect stating that all of the number of Universes Co-Exist "Side by Side". Those are two very different things. Plus as posted before, the Passage of Fate...
  10. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    @ Ultima Reality Not exactly, what it refers to is that the Passage of Fate by itself already exists beyond the multiverse. It's just that Zanza with use of his own and Meyneth's Monado was able to take control over the Passage of Fate and then create said reality, there were also scans that...
  11. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    Then...I guess I'll go ahead and make the updates to Shulk, Zanza and Alvis' profiles.
  12. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    Perhaps, but that depends on 6-D Alvis getting accepted in the first place. There are more people who do agree with it it then not, but I don't want to automatically assume anything.
  13. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    No, 7-D got rejected. 6-D It's still being argued. There's a split between people
  14. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    Part 2 will mostly be dedicated to Xenoblade 2 yes. Their profiles are missing alot of stuff, although there is some more Xenoblade 1 stuff that also needs to be taken care of too in part 2 that we can't discuss here.
  15. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    We agreed to put a pin in 7-D for now. Since the other changes non ap related were universally accepted, would it be ok to add those?
  16. BeeDub98

    Top Five Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier 8: New Forum, same rules

    Luke and Kirby are screwed, but Gran/Djeeta resist Soul Hax
  17. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    It will, but that's coming much later though. Just because 7-D wasn't accepted now doesn't mean something can't come along and help Alvis' case. All that's left is the matter of Alvis' nature of being 6-D or not
  18. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    Aside from the Tier Adjustments and range that are still being debated, since everything else was agreed on may I add those?
  19. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    I'd like to apologize for my absence, there is some important stuff that I am dealing with.
  20. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    How would that imply those are the only things he can compare it too? If that were the case wouldn't he flat out say that those are the only things he can compare it too? If The Architect can literally see the entire Multiverse on a 5-D Spectrum due to his other half fusing with that 5-D...
  21. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    No that just implies that it's a different place from his home. You said you weren't sure on how seeing Endless Number of 4-D Universes equates to 5-D. I showed you the scan of the Passage of Fate existing beyond the boundaries of Space-Time. That is 5-D. If the Architect can see the endless...
  22. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    I will not be around much to talk today but I will say this to address the points you made. Shulk doesn't only just state that it's not apart of the Bionis/Mechonis", he literally says "Where are we? This place..." Meaning that he doesn't recognize the Archsage's Realm despite becoming the...
  23. BeeDub98

    No worries, I understand.

    No worries, I understand.
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  24. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    Well it stated that the Passage of Fate dictates the course of events across both Xenoblade 1's and 2's Universes, and exists beyond the Multiverse's Space-Time Continuum.
  25. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    A different space-time contiuim can still be on the same plane of existence as a world. Deliberately stating a showing that this plane exists beyond the scope of a 4-D Multiverse and affects it as such is 5-D. There is a difference between existing "Outside" of a Multiverse and existing "Beyond" it.
  26. BeeDub98

    Hi, sorry to bother you but I was wondering if you don't mind taking a look at this on-going...

    Hi, sorry to bother you but I was wondering if you don't mind taking a look at this on-going CRT. More eyes and staff input is always appreciated, but I understand if you don't have the time and such
  27. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    Ah, sorry mate. I legit overlooked your post. I'll count you, and will contact more staff.
  28. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    Well I wasn't really sure where you stood, as you just commented about the series connections. However input is appreciated as this revision is going a bit slower then I had hoped. I'll put you down still as neutral on the Tier change and agreement with everything else.
  29. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    Alright, just to make sure that's Agreed with 6-D: Ashen Crow, Shift_Ctrl_Alt_Delete, Thatsafloridathing, ProfessorKuki4Life, XDragnoir, DDM, DatOneWeeb, Veloxt1r0kore, GiverOfThePeace, The Axiom of Virgo, Bob, MrWarnerTheGreat Agreed with 5-D Low 1-C disagreed with 6-D Low 1-C: Zencha9...
  30. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    Bump
  31. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    That's gonna be explored more later. What we do know now is that he transcends at least 2, likely 3 Higher Planes of Infinity and affects at least 2 of them. Plus Alvis and The Wave Existence use the same source of energy. That being the Zohar/Conduit. So it's only part of the argument for 1-C...
  32. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    Let's not get ahead of ourselves. This still needs more agreement from people, but after Part 1 is over. Yes, I will make the profile pic change. I already did the changes for the rest of the gang, but purposefully left Alvis out for revision sake. Edit: DDM will take care of it instead
  33. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    Bump
  34. BeeDub98

    Granblue Fantasy vs Final Fantasy: Gran/Djeeta vs Sephiroth

    Bump
  35. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    Did you read the OP? It has the scans that state that The Architect who is Zanza's other half keep in mind. Is able to see the entirety of the Multiverse and since Zanza had infused with the Passage of Fate, that would The Architect is seeing it on a 5-D Scale. However he outright states that...
  36. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    Existing outside Space-Time isn't. Existing Beyond a 2-A Multiverse and it's Space-Time Continuum, and directly affecting it as it's overarching Concept on a 5-D scale, created by a being who transcends that 5-D Scale, should be Tier 1, on top of that Alvis and This Character use the exact same...
  37. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    You can lack a Space-Time and not be beyond the scope of reality. Those two things don't automatically go together. Again it's not just "viewing something" as insignificant or as fiction. It's directly treating it as such, The Passage of Fate is the world's overarching concept. A 5-D construct...
  38. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    Addressing Shrek's response. 1. They are called different things but they function exactly the same, plus The Conduit is actually is referred to as "The Zohar" in the games asset files, both perpetual motion machines found in the exact same place at the exact same time. 2. There is crazy...
  39. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    There is a difference between pocket dimensions and what this is. The Passage of Fate on it's own already exists beyond the Space-Time Structure. It's just after fusing with it Zanza creates a Pocket World. Creating a Pocket World by itself that completely lacks a Space-Time while still on the...
  40. BeeDub98

    Xenoblade Revision Part 1: Tier Revisions and Minor Hax Adjustments

    First of all Shrek, resorting to name calling things like dumbass and swearing? Are you a child? If you're going to act like one then kindly take your immaturity and go to 4chan. Let the people who have cooler heads discuss things in peace.
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