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  1. Lavtop

    Low 2-C Zeref + other stuffs

    He need the door to do neo ecplise, he can't do that by himself randomly
  2. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    Yes, You can close this.
  3. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    @Elizhaa then you can apply the change at the profile and close this. Just the speed, the abilities will stay the same.
  4. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    Kep is not answering, but the last thing he wrote was that: If nothing else, keeping his Higher-D existence coupled with a note that his speed increases as he absorbs more timelines is the minimum I can agree with. My proposal based on that was: MFTL+, higher as long as he continues absorbing...
  5. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    Now the votes are upgraded, I didn't had time, the problem was that even do the staff memebers all agreed with the removal of the omnipresence, some of them were neutral regarding HDE that is why. Now it should be fine. Since I counted the neutral votes regarding HDE as "I'm fine with the...
  6. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    I tried to stay calm, I never insulted anyone and yelled "biased" at anyone, I was just answering, it's the all thread that I'm answering, and I won't change my mind Or close the thread just because a bunch of members say otherwise and call me biased, if they can't properly debunk my thread, and...
  7. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    The one who proposed the staff only thread wasn't me but @eficiente lol
  8. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    Removing the omnipresence is the consensus of all the staff members as well nigh omnipresence, while keeping it is the consensus of all the regular members it's still not up to you to decide.
  9. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    It's not a bias of mine if all the staff members agreed on what I said instead of agreeing with all the dragonball supporters that obviously will not accept a downgrade.. Probably because I make sense? again, I never said, that I'm not counting your votes, in the thread there are literally...
  10. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    Can please stop say random things? Seriously, if you think some staff members doesn't agree, just say their name and I will quote you their message proving you are wrong. why you can't do that? Maybe because there is no one? I even asked two time to specify their position, stop denying the...
  11. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    Calling me biased will not change Anything about what the staff said about this thread. I already told you to tell me which staff members are against the downgrade so I can easily debunk you by quoting their message. Also please stop quoting wall of text.
  12. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    In the arcade he got sealed as Old, so even if he come back he will be weak, while in the manga is sealed as full power, so if he come back will be a problem, considering the fact that the canon source is the arcade, he is not gonna come back as demon king. Probably Fu is gonna be even a great...
  13. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    Once absorbed the black hole, he just want to kill everyone for revenge, he doesn't even care about towa, he used her as a shield against trunks. The arcade didn't give him a deep background, probably when the last manga chapters will be translated we will know more, but i doubt, maybe he can...
  14. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    The vote list is updated, and is correct, you can easily check it by the last messages of everyone, since According to someone, there are some mysterious staff memebers that agreed but I can't see them. beside jokes, I have to go, I think sufficient people and staff member voted the thread and...
  15. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    Thanks Elizhaa, I will add your name too.
  16. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    Then tell me the name of the staff members that agreed with the omnipresence beside kep, because probably I'm blind. I literally wrote to you every staff members name with their motivations, at the moment you are literally ignoring what they wrote. And keep saying "they disagree!!" When they all...
  17. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    No one of the staff agreed with nigh-Omnipresence can you please at least read the thread? Or I have to quote every single vote of them saying they disagree with the omnipresence/nigh omnipresence? I also put on the thread the votes of every one, no one is ignoring nothing.
  18. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    They did all agree. I suggest you to read the thread. All the staff members are in the option they choose check the thread. Eficiente said he agree with all the removal; Antoniofer said he disagree with the omnipresence and he is neutral with the higher existence; Matthew agree with all the...
  19. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    I called a lot of staff members and they all agreed with the Downgrade. So the result would be obvious. Kep seemed to accept the compromise of removing the omnipresence/nigh omnipresence and leave the higher dimensional existence with a speed rating like this one: MFTL+, higher as long as he...
  20. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    I can Agree with this, if that means close this thread. the omnipresence/nigh-omnipresence is straight no for me, As for the other staff members, higher dimensional existence is debatable, and I can agree with that. If you agree definitely with what you said, then I think it's concluded since...
  21. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    @antoniofer where I have to put your vote? In the first or second option? there are 3.
  22. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    Since I had time I upgraded all the votes, I have even Contacted Elizhaa since she was the only one staff memeber supporting Kep and she said she is neutral for now. if someone is sure about his position and want to be counted in one of the 3 options or be removed just say that, I will just...
  23. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    I'm gonna add them from now, as I said.
  24. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    @gyro is your position the correct one on my post? There are 3 options I would prefer to only count staff members vote since they are unbiased, and the discussion was Kep supported by all the Dragonball supporter against me and Cal. the franchise popularity would, as you can see in the...
  25. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    I'm gonna rearrange that: Removing both 4D existence and Omnipresence: Matthew, Cal Remove only Omnipresence and not the 4D existence: Gyro Nigh-Omnipresent and 4D existence (proud Version): Kep If you suggest something else or change your vote I'm gonna upgrade the list @gyro do you...
  26. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    Zamasu was becoming truly omnipresent and you can clearly see the difference from him and mechikabura.
  27. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    Then those characters should be downgraded too, not only Mechikaboola. What is the point to put them at omnipresent if they are not truly omnipresent? The problem with Mechikaboola is that he shown nothing, it's never stated that you have to affect the entire multiverse to damage him, plus the...
  28. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    '> The reason Trunks could harm Mechikabura was because of his Keysword. The Keysword was made sepcifically to harm Demons and it was powered by Chronoa and Toki-Toki with time power. Vegito and co could harm him because he was weakend by the sword. Furthermore, these characters have been stated...
  29. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    > Mechikabura's essence encompassed all the timelines he was absorbing no evidence, the summaries just said he was just absorbing time, his body his the same he wasn't encompassing anything >In order to stop Mechikabura, they had to seal all the timelines he had absorbed no evidence, they...
  30. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    That literally doesn't proves nothing they were inside the black hole that absorbed the time and they saw the time absorbed by the black hole the demigra pull them off and they they stomps him and sealed just his body. how that proves omnipresence? How that proves true Mechikaboola? How...
  31. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    Again there is no true Mechikaboola This is Mechikaboola BEFORE absorbing time, so 3D Then he used the black hole (that is the thing that absorbs time) He absorbed the black hole and transformed in the final form So it's the same body, literally the same body with the sphere inside that...
  32. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    You can't be 4D and omnipresent and have an human size, lol it's like saying I'm everywhere in the universe but I'm just as big as a human so I need to travel to go to another point. He is not even beyond space, since he was just absorbing time INSIDE himself Why is so difficult to admit that...
  33. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    > Assuming that Mechikabura was physically appearing inside the multiverse he just absorbed into himself, it's obvious that he is manifesting through an 'avatar' body, especially considering he was regenerating based on time, the essence of which had been consumed by him. What in the world...
  34. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    But still no evidences and just assumptions That is the reason why people and staff member agree with me instead of you. So what we are gonna do? Can you post some evidences? Because I'm pretty sure that if they didn't change idea, it's 4 or 5 staff members against you
  35. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    There isn't nothing like that, you can easily read all the chapter and the 3 summaries 15 minutes at best And you will understand by yourself how completely unfounded are the assumptions they are making true Mechikabura (no evidence or statements) They are fighting an avatar (no evidence or...
  36. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    > The vast majority of 'omnipresent' villain characters in this wiki can and continue to be affected by 'normal' hero characters. Only thing I can see here is maybe "X speed in his avatar, Omnipresent in his true essence". Appealing authority will not change the fact that This contradict what...
  37. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    Not even close, it doesn't fit with the description of omnipresent in every single aspect You just need to affect a normal body to affect him While for truly omnipresent characters you need to affect all the time space Also they were affecting him since they damaged him and he can regenerate...
  38. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    Absorbing time is in no way comparable to be omnipresent and higher dimensional existence Using again manga summaries when the manga itself contradict you is useless Now you are arguing that is a feat for vegito? So vegito is omnipresent and has an higher dimensional existence? 3 staff member...
  39. Lavtop

    Mechikabura massive Downgrade

    In this thread: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/4008393 Mechikabura get upgraded to omnipresent and higher dimensional existence. Using manga summaries without posting what happening in the manga, how hilarious. the OP intentionally omitted what happened behind those summaries. let's...
  40. Lavtop

    Heroes and Xenoverse speed revisited

    He posted the entire chapter go read it, he has a 3 dimensional body as you can clearly see. The summaries just said he was absorbing time, extremely vague and out of context until you read the manga and see he has always the same body and he is no near close to omnipresence or higher...
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