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i think so too. the worst case scenario for vegeta in this fight would be a draw. there is no way he is losing to 20xkk as BEYOND ssb.
can anyone here still tell me how goku kkx20 > GoD Toppo who got whupped badly by vegeta? just because goku has " more techniques " doesnt mean he can beat...
Jiren was stated by whis to be the only mortal that a GoD cant defeat. his power is above hakaishins. There is no way beerus wins against jiren. 100% Jiren wins this mid difficulty against 100% serious beerus. Jiren has already shown feats that put him above GoD level.
lul. i think its easy to ignore facts and events that happen in an episode simply because they arent going the way u want them to be. thats what i think ur doing rn. kudos on the downgrade.
Android 17 was even able to withstand a power impact from Jiren and is also the first fighter to actually cause noticeable damage to Jiren with a sneak attack. his self destruction was able to repel jirens blast.
i made a thread but it was closed even though i think there were enough evidence. anyways. the fact that 17 tanked blows from jiren and still got up and took his blast head on when he pushed vegeta away and that was without barrier is impressive.
as for the sneak attack, it was a explosion not...
in this episode u saw him trade blows with jiren who powered up. his barrier on goku and vegeta protected them from the blast as well. and his self destruct basically = jirens blast. how is this still 3a ? they're all low 2c. u saw frieza get whooped in 1 second by jiren. when 17 pushed vegeta...
How is 17 weaker than SSB goku when he forced goku to go into SSB and fought evenly with him while both were suppressed. And if he was weaker than SSJB goku then how was he able to go through anilazas barrier and destroy his core if his attack potency is not even 3a? anilaza was taking on all of...
what do you mean he couldnt withstand toppo the episode before? toppo was just spamming hakai everywhere and he was able to keep up but he couldnt damage toppo because of the destruction energy around him.
The reason 17 was not able to damage Toppo was probably because he was surrounding himself with the energy of destruction so toppo wasnt even getting hit by his blasts. Jiren didnt have that energy around him so his blast worked on jiren and basically wounded him according to the u11 Kai.
SPOILERS for episode 127 of dbs.
are we looking at a upgrade to high 3A or low 2-c? 17s self destruct basically = jirens blast. and he was able to withstand hits from jiren who powered up even more and was able to hold his own against a powered up jiren even if briefly. what do u guys think?