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  1. By_My_Neck

    Azrael (Discworld) vs The Living Tribunal (Marvel)

    Except that Living Tribunal in Ultimates.. is treated in a Multiversal-scale context, using an old scan to override a head-canon interpretation against the new, is in itself, what fails.
  2. By_My_Neck

    Azrael (Discworld) vs The Living Tribunal (Marvel)

    Just read Ultimates. Living Tribunal is vulnerable if the Marvel Multiverse is born anew. It's the entire basis for the plot of Ultimates. I don't need to prove it, you have to refute me now.
  3. By_My_Neck

    Azrael (Discworld) vs The Living Tribunal (Marvel)

    High 1-B Marvel is a massive joke now, we only maintain it as High-1-B VIA headcanon to keep it VIA politics. So feats is not something to argue that Marvel has.
  4. By_My_Neck

    Azrael (Discworld) vs The Living Tribunal (Marvel)

    No they weren't. They were the real LT. Living Tribunal could not regenerate his power in the Multiverse properly, until Infinite Universes matured.
  5. By_My_Neck

    God (DC Comics) Profile Making Explanation

    So the De: Creator and the Great Evil Beast are the same?
  6. By_My_Neck

    God (DC Comics) Profile Making Explanation

    Wait, the De-Creator is connected to the Presence?
  7. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Hykuu is right. You don't understand that merging three characters (Presence, Source and Overvoid) is a relatively very sensitive issue outside your forum. Without context and just throwing it all willy nill like "Well, I could head-canon assume that this is that and the starking differences...
  8. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Spectre merging with the Void beyond Voids, deeming the DC Multiverse as the Presence's Creation.... is not a good enough position to verify their claims? And how where Creation came from? God. Overvoid doesn't even know where the DC Multiverse came from, even though there were countless...
  9. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Sure, but it's still etchy. The Brahman Presence is a different themology from the Source and the Monitor Mind, certainly for the latter.... because the latter doesn't even know where the DC Multiverse came from while in Matteis's stories, the Presence certainly does. Just because one has...
  10. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Which story was that?
  11. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Elaine Belloc was mentioned in the 31st Century? What? Are you talking about? Would I ask please so the name of the series, page, writer, of the scan?
  12. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Does the Presence have any new mentions or info in Rebirth? So far, it ended at N52, and all mentions of the Presence these days is in Lucifer 2018.
  13. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    I get it now. Brahman Presence/Overvoid/Source > Pralaya => Carey Presence > Lucifer & Michael > Every other 1-A in DC
  14. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    I found it.
  15. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    What? The Pralaya scan? That's disappointing. That story doesn't say the Presence was the Void though. Pralaya predates the "Creator".
  16. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Sandman i cannot find any scan of the issue of this JMD presence avatar online anywhere would anyone care to post a link of it here? The scans at least?
  17. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Sandman, which Justice League Dark was that? Written by Matteis?
  18. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Hi All, Are there other stories of Matteis or non-Matteis DC works that treat Presence as an unmanifested Brahman/Ain-Soph? Would any of you happen to know the issues?
  19. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    If everything in Vertigo was canon, it would give DC a massive HUGE power boost due to scaling from the Leviathan. But I am curious about Doctor Fate stuff implying Brahman/Ain-Soph Presence.
  20. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Is there other references of the Presence alluding to Ain-Soph/Para-brahman stuff in Matteis's other works besides Spectre, as well as beyond? Other than that, the Presence is the "Source" but it's more like Nirvana than Brahman.
  21. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Lucifer 2018 is referencing him as the Shaper of Suns, where the Universe bent to his Will, and was an aspect of the Presence who is 1-A. Three things, a Carey Lucifer trait.
  22. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Matt, how many times was the Source and the Presence were linked? Only 3 stories?
  23. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Is it wrong to scale Lucifer's own Morningstar powers to the Brahman Presence?
  24. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    No, I'm not talking about that old Ostrander Source Spectre thing. I'm talking about when Darkseid implied to Spectre, that the Presence perceives Darkseid as a necessary element of his Creation. And Darkseid only sees the Source as superior to him, so again, Presence = Source.
  25. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Even Matteis implied that the Source and the Presence are the same. In Spectre 2001, Darkseid told the Spectre that he is a necessary evil, deemed necessary by a more powerful being than Spectre himself. And since this same story has Presence as Top Dog, this also means that Four Different DC...
  26. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Well, the Void beyond all Voids, including every Multiverse, every Creation included, as well as all versions of the Endless in every Multiverse created by Super-Celestials, is transcended by the Oversoul.
  27. By_My_Neck

    Time to fit the (literal) god of DC comics as well as the others in our new tiering system

    All of this is just extremely vague stuff. Based on subjective opinion. Like, at what point is a piece of paper, a white character being that is a piece of paper based on your concious intent? It's so weird.
  28. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    What are you talking about? Literally all your Vertigo God-Tier profiles are mixing Composite-DC Cosmology. Carey/Snyder/Morrison lore. Why should it be different for the Presence? To make sure that Dream > Presence? You are scaling Lucifer to the 6th, 5th, Nil and Limbo, which are directly...
  29. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    You don't even need to separate their profiles. In fact, the "Other Makers" being referred to in Lucifer, they too could be just aspects of the Source/Presence anyway. Because we know those other creations are forged by Super-Celestials just like Perpetua. So Lilith and Silk Man were just...
  30. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Is it wrong to interpret that the Presence in the Silver City (Yahweh) is just a Human Religion Avatar of the True Void Presence? That's also not wrong. Spectre implied that the Judeo-Christian view of the Presence is just one aspect of the True God.
  31. By_My_Neck

    God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles

    Hykuu, much of these is not direct enough. I agree with the evidence, but there is a growing group of Morrison fanboys on other forums that deny everything you posted. Are you certain this is everything?
  32. By_My_Neck

    Time to fit the (literal) god of DC comics as well as the others in our new tiering system

    I know that, but many Morrison fans on Reddit like to reject this, say that the Void that the Presence is merged with is just somewhere in the Sphere of the Gods and that the Monitors are the True Gods of DC.
  33. By_My_Neck

    Time to fit the (literal) god of DC comics as well as the others in our new tiering system

    This might be off topic a little, but can someone list stuff that indicates Grant considers the Presence and the Overvoid are the same?
  34. By_My_Neck

    Time to fit the (literal) god of DC comics as well as the others in our new tiering system

    Then the Eonymous are Tier 0.
  35. By_My_Neck

    Time to fit the (literal) god of DC comics as well as the others in our new tiering system

    I thought that the Eonymous is the Writer?
  36. By_My_Neck

    Time to fit the (literal) god of DC comics as well as the others in our new tiering system

    DC perceives that Void as something that can contain any size imaginable and unimaginable, even to mathematics and that should include Cardinality. That in fact, seems to be why Snyder made the 5th and 6th Dimension the Archetypes of Imagination/Non-Imagination and by extension size, so that...
  37. By_My_Neck

    Time to fit the (literal) god of DC comics as well as the others in our new tiering system

    Any amount of Imagination/Unimagination 1-A Hierarchy will always amount to 0 to the Overvoid, that much is pretty clear. Take that statement with what you will. You have no way of quantifying how huge DC's 1-A layers may be, and that they are less divided into less layers, does not in anyway...
  38. By_My_Neck

    Time to fit the (literal) god of DC comics as well as the others in our new tiering system

    It was stated in Lucifer that any amount of 1-A Creations within the Void, ends up to 0. Take that statement with what you will.
  39. By_My_Neck

    oblivion vs lucifer morning star

    Omniversal is just 2-A in the current Marvel cosmology buddy.
  40. By_My_Neck

    oblivion vs lucifer morning star

    Obscenly- His Tier is fine, idk if you were agreeing. I am agreeing, I'm giving further justifications.
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