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  1. fandom_12cheeper

    Fire emblem overall downgrade.

    IIRC that's based on a false pretense that Formortiis death throes caused a huge earthquake that sunk Grado.It's been awhile since I've played through the game so don't quote me on that. This isn't really the topic for that though.
  2. fandom_12cheeper

    Fire emblem overall downgrade.

    No,that's blazing blade but Elibe is absolutely fairly strong.Though I think the good stuff is from the japan only binding blade.Just thought you might've gotten it mixed up because GBA as well as SS not being very impressive powerwise.
  3. fandom_12cheeper

    Fire emblem overall downgrade.

    You sure you're not thinking of Sacred Stones?Elibe at least has the legendary weapons and the ending winter which are super powerful no matter how you choose to interpret the lore.
  4. fandom_12cheeper

    Fire emblem overall downgrade.

    This is absurd.Literally every single time a direct sequel comes out the entire cast of the previous game is alive and well not to mention that said deaths boil down to player error or RNG screw.If anything,the burden of proof is on you that they didn't survive the previous game since every...
  5. fandom_12cheeper

    General Fire Emblem Upgrades

    The only thing he was right about was starlight being the only weapon that can bypass Imhullu. @Medeus Gotoh during the events of Shadow Dragon also had every interest in revealing as little about the gemstones as possible.Indeed,he actually went out of his way to withhold as much information...
  6. fandom_12cheeper

    General Fire Emblem Upgrades

    Yes,because some random villager is a more reliable source of information than a dude who knows everything there is to know about the history of the continent and how the Gemstones work.Makes perfect sense.
  7. fandom_12cheeper

    General Fire Emblem Upgrades

    Oh boy,Completely unkillable except for a magic that only exists in his universe and who's only discernible traits are "nullifys the effects of Imhullu/darksphere." Are we really doing this again?
  8. fandom_12cheeper

    General Fire Emblem Upgrades

    You don't mind being pressed a bit,do you?Now you are suggesting country level Imhullu are you not?Logically this would apply to it's DC as well since the defensive capabilities as well as its offensive ones come from the same source,no?Well,following this train of logic we would naturally have...
  9. fandom_12cheeper

    General Fire Emblem Upgrades

    Yes,because Imhullus mind hax prevents Tiki from moving.No duh. And no,Gharnef wasn't necessarily there.The whole reason the liberation army went to Gra to begin with was because Jiol took it with him on top of Marth getting revenge on the man who murdered his father 2 years prior.There's...
  10. fandom_12cheeper

    General Fire Emblem Upgrades

    Cornelius never fought him.That was OVA and manga only.In the games he was stabbed in the back by Jiol.Gharnef has never fought a Falchion user at any point. All that Tiki succumbing to him implies is that she lacks the mental resistance which yeah,no duh he actually brainwashed her in shadow...
  11. fandom_12cheeper

    General Fire Emblem Upgrades

    Pretty much this. Also,at resurrection stuff IIRC that wasn't necessarily the darksphere.I don't think it's ever actually specified how he did it.Though even then Medeus was just in a deep slumber and wasn't actually dead because earth dragons have an enormous amount of quintessence which makes...
  12. fandom_12cheeper

    General Fire Emblem Upgrades

    Imhully was crafted from the Darksphere. Doesnt mean its the same as the darksphere, tho. Its an unique spell. Gotoh explained that the Imhullu spe─║l was stolen from him. Also, I think Anankos' profile is missing some ablities. Gharnef and by extension Imhullu has 2 seemingly contradictory...
  13. fandom_12cheeper

    Realistically, what would Earth's gravity do to characters like Pui Pui from DBZ?

    Not really.Even in real life astronauts who spend relatively short periods of time in microgravity still take a bit of time having to reacclimate to earth's gravity.Assuming he spent a decent amount of time on earth while he could probably still go back without getting crushed it would...
  14. fandom_12cheeper

    Realistically, what would Earth's gravity do to characters like Pui Pui from DBZ?

    Even then,irl your body would eventually become accustomed to the lower Gs and start weakening since your body doesn't constantly have to counteract all the forces acting on it and in all likelihood would be unable to go back to his home planet without getting crushed.
  15. fandom_12cheeper

    RWBY Stat Revision: Part II

    Eh,That's something you'd have to bring up with RT honestly. Durability in RWBY is largely based on aura and as far as can be seen semblances in general don't really affect aura.
  16. fandom_12cheeper

    RWBY Stat Revision: Part II

    So when are we gonna upgrade Bulmas durability to 2-c for getting slapped by Beerus?
  17. fandom_12cheeper

    Fire Emblem Awakening and Holy War Revisions

    Are you trying to argue that the BOG version of the Falchion is comparable to the one used by Marth and Alm?If so,that's a whole lot of nope. http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Falchion#Fire_Emblem_Awakening First off,the japanese version literally refers to it as the "sealed sword Falchion" and...
  18. fandom_12cheeper

    Massive dark souls Downgrades.

    By this logic shouldn't we downgrade literally everyone in Zelda to like,wall level?Hell,throw Fire Emblem in there too while you're at it.
  19. fandom_12cheeper

    What's the lowest a powerful character has ever been on VBW?

    SK in particular I recall any attempts to upgrade being dismissed as wank.
  20. fandom_12cheeper

    What's the lowest a powerful character has ever been on VBW?

    Large building level Tiki. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tiki_(Fire_Emblem)?oldid=1193782 Never forget. Made even better by Medeus,who Shadow Dragon makes clear Tiki can 1v1 being several tiers higher.That in addition to lore stating she has enough power to cause the apocalypse.
  21. fandom_12cheeper

    All-Might vs Saitama

    We do though? It's pretty easy to find speed equalized fights. Hell,I'd wager a good chunk of the fights on this wiki are speed equalized. Powers and abilities still exist.
  22. fandom_12cheeper

    Ken Masters vs Sol Badguy

    stats equalized. Sol Badguy Ken Masters
  23. fandom_12cheeper

    Speed Equalising abuse.

    I think the point is that equalizing speed 100% of the time makes even having speed ratings on profiles utterly pointless.Why even bother calculating characters speeds if you're just gonna end up equalizing speed in any thread using them?
  24. fandom_12cheeper

    Some major Fire Emblem revisions

    Great,he can solo armies.I'm not disputing that.Too bad you don't have to be particularly powerful to do that.You know what else can devastate countries over time in a war?Actual IRL armies. I'm not too interested in tiers or whatever, but Medeus did singlehandedly turn the tide of battle, so it...
  25. fandom_12cheeper

    Some major Fire Emblem revisions

    Great,he can solo armies.I'm not disputing that.Too bad you don't have to be particularly powerful to do that.You know what else can devastate countries over time in a war?Actual IRL armies.
  26. fandom_12cheeper

    Some major Fire Emblem revisions

    K.So do I need to get a mod to unlock the topics or something? Also,should gharnef stalemating GER be removed under notable inconclusive fights?
  27. fandom_12cheeper

    Some major Fire Emblem revisions

    So assuming there aren't any last minute objections what are the agreed changes?
  28. fandom_12cheeper

    Some major Fire Emblem revisions

    https://serenesforest.net/shadow-dragon/scripts/game-script/chapter-24-the-dragonkin-realm/ "Gotoh:Select a handful of your best warriors. I must send into an unseen dimension." Marth: An unseen dimension, my lord? Gotoh: A place outside the confines of our world. There you will find a tower...
  29. fandom_12cheeper

    Some major Fire Emblem revisions

    If you recruit Nagi,who's a heavily weakened reincarnation of Naga in Shadow Dragon she teleports from her tower to Dolhr keep. Said tower exists in another dimension outside of the normal universe.
  30. fandom_12cheeper

    Some major Fire Emblem revisions

    Naga gets cross universe teleportation,Imhullu and the darksphere go from being a NLF to basic mind hax,and Falchion loses melee attack negation and statistics amplification.There should also probably be a note on the profiles of Falchion users mentioning that its AP only applies to dragons as...
  31. fandom_12cheeper

    Some major Fire Emblem revisions

    I'm not trying to upgrade anything.I'm just clearing up blatant misinformation.The only character this is really upgrading is Tiki and to a lesser extent Naga.Everything else is either downgrades or otherwise fairly minor.
  32. fandom_12cheeper

    Some major Fire Emblem revisions

    No.Literally everything that makes Tiki a borderline god tier comes from when she was only 1000 years old during Marth's time. Isnt Child tike unexperienced, tho? During marth's time she cannot properly control her powers iirc. It isn't so much she can't control her powers so much as it is...
  33. fandom_12cheeper

    Some major Fire Emblem revisions

    No.Literally everything that makes Tiki a borderline god tier comes from when she was only 1000 years old during Marth's time.
  34. fandom_12cheeper

    Some major Fire Emblem revisions

    Eventually as in when she inevitably degenerated. Not seriously arguing that anyway but just thought I'd point out that that's how "destroy the world" statements tend to be treated on this site.
  35. fandom_12cheeper

    Some major Fire Emblem revisions

    I'm well aware of what Xane said as I've played both versions of mystery of the emblem.Regardless there's no evidence he had any direct involvement.All that's said is that he followed the divine dragon elders advice by sealing his power into a stone and did as Naga told him and guarded the...
  36. fandom_12cheeper

    Some major Fire Emblem revisions

    OK,I'm gonna be blunt, the profiles for the first 3 fire emblem games are a mess so let's do something about that,shall we? Tiki Oh boy,Tiki.I'm gonna be honest,the degree to which this site downplays her is kinda hilarious. Anyway,first off,in the event that you both fail to retrieve falchion...
  37. fandom_12cheeper

    Manakete Human Forms Upgrade

    Should also scale to speed seeing as how they're no less able to dodge attacks than they're human allies albeit not as well compared to while in dragon form (especially divine dragons.)
  38. fandom_12cheeper

    Shantae Attack Speed (Potential revision?)

    That's only once per 0.14 seconds which assuming a distance of one meter would barely even net superhuman speed if that.
  39. fandom_12cheeper

    Fire Emblem 7/6 and Warriors Upgrades Thread.

    So downgrades when?
  40. fandom_12cheeper

    Fire Emblem 7/6 and Warriors Upgrades Thread.

    Honestly?Given how inconsistent the standards on this site are I was just seeing if you'd actually accept that stuff.Also?Causing a global winter is not what the legendary weapons did.If it was,the dragons wouldn't have lost their ability to maintain their draconic forms.As in,the reason that...
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