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  1. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    I'm not against Mitchs proposal. The first option of just 7-B to 7-A was great and I think was the favored option. Like I was getting at before. Some of the problems brought up arent taken into account. It comes of as issues being ignored for the sake of it and giving Esdeath the possibility...
  2. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    Not really misconceptions when the manga itself literally shows what I'm trying to say. Claims Esdeath is above shikoutazer, despite the manga showing 1. shikoutazer doing more damage,instantly critical, to stage 2 tatsumi in 1 hit, than esdeath going all out was capable of. Even when she...
  3. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    I just think the "possibility 6-B" shouldnt be added since it doesn't make since at all. The scaling and things brought up for arent backed up. Like esdeath scaling above shikoutazer isnt true and creating the cavalry doesnt equate to AP they have no feats that level. having it just be "at...
  4. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    The overall 7-B to 7-A prowess and high 6-A environmental destruction was good I agree with you on possibility 6-B shouldnt be added. It doesnt add up.
  5. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    There honestly isnt. Their abilites come from teigu All teigu are unique to themselves and arent powered or created from the same thing. Esdeath power comes from the blood of a northern super class danger beast Lubbock cross tail was created from the body hair of a Eastern super class danger...
  6. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    1. Creation doesn't equal AP. The calavry have no feats on the level of the energy put into them. Neither does she even when the storm is activated. 2. Tatsumi relies on regeneration not out right durability. That doesnt help show her strength. If i stab deadpool that doesnt necessarily mean...
  7. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    Ok yea I agree to that. at least High 7-A overall and through using stored power can preform a High 6-A environmental feat Using theory isnt a good idea since it leads to a bunch of assumptions. She hasnt shown to do other things with it other than launch it to the sky. The whole high 6-B i...
  8. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    The first one looks good. At least High 7-A is reasonable Is the High 6-A being still used as AP or just the level of stored power for Environmental Range/AOE ?
  9. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    I dont mean derail anything this thread is pretty much going over the akame ga kill verse as a whole and its scaling. Dicussusing different characters and going over any issues. Shikoutazer is brought up and is a point of discussion for characters scaling. So I thought it would be alright to...
  10. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    I want to bring up some issue or things that I dont think some have notice. Starting with the robots size. In the calc about purge mode shikoutazer in the OP. it states the walls are 9.97 km which by default make the robot bigger. Like 10 to 12km. I dont think some understand just how big...
  11. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    No the black orb was only used once. When it transformed into purge mode
  12. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    I don't think scaling her to purge mode works Cause purge mode did more immediate damage to stage 2 tatsumi than esdeath was able to. Purge mode dang near killed him if it wasnt for him adapting and gaining regen.
  13. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    Oh, cause I was thinkin that. Cause since stage 2 was breaking her ice, then it withstanding a stronger form during the storm.
  14. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    During the storm esdeath blocked an attack from dragon tatsumi with her ice shield. Then she was capable of clashing with trump card akame who could break though her ice shield. Wouldnt that imply an amp?
  15. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    I'm just saying what happened and showing the panels Tatsumi has still shown being capable of breaking her ice as seen in the panels I posted. 1. Even in there second fight (when esdeath was going all out as it's been stated and I show/explained in my above post) he could still break her ice...
  16. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    Then stage 2 tatsumi Base akame isnt strong enough to break or even crack esdeath ice While stage 2 tatsumi has shown to be capable of easily doing so with his attacks
  17. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    Fixed my above reply, mobile made it difficult ha. Anyway, depends. Which version of akame are you referring to? Base everyday akame Drug akame Ennoozuno akame
  18. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    I'm not pulling stuff out of know where. I'm showing the panels 1. when I made my claim i didnt just say she was knocked out and left it at that. I gave reasoning and panels from the manga to help. 1.1 - I said she was knocked out. Then gave panel explaining how that could be the...
  19. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    Yea sure After he knocked her out. He goes and tells akame he landed a hit on esdeath, which surprises her and then right after says while esdeath is out they'd have enough time to fight budo and escape This is true as we dont see esdeath until everything is over and they've beatin budo then...
  20. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    She was very much hurt by that punch as she noted the pain when she was hit and was put out of commission for the rest of the battle due to it. https://official-complete-1.granpulse.us/manga/Akame-Ga-Kiru/0055-043.png Then theres the fact that she was hurt and knocked out by a freshly evolved...
  21. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    Yea, Back during ch.55, even when she protected herself with ice https://official-complete-1.granpulse.us/manga/Akame-Ga-Kiru/0055-042.png I honestly dont see how even with the storm activated she scales to the storm. Or what puts her up that high. she doesnt have something equal to it during...
  22. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    I tried breaking my points down better 1. what I'm saying is she didnt create any in that moment, that was them being revealed. Saying she created 8 then 63 instantly contradicts the statement that the cavalry has been training non stop. Since there would be 63+ untrained ice cavalry heading...
  23. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    Oops thanks, i fixed them i think
  24. Ragna777

    AKAME GA KILL VERSE WIDE REVISION AND CLEAN UPS

    I dont know if it's to late to reply but there's holes in this. Dont mean to be a naysayer but Esdeath didnt instantly create those soldiers right there. She created them way prior than when they're revealed The calvary was foreshadowed back during chapter 57 as the secret ace for the empire...
  25. Ragna777

    Fairy Tail God Tiers

    Arc may not be far off, at first I would of thought so but now idk cause I watched these lengthy videos that I came across on twitter that were debunking DB gray vs esdeath and he got natsu at tier High 6-A to scale to Gray. Yea it sounds out there but man ALOT was brought up. Brought vswiki to
  26. Ragna777

    Resisting Esdeaths Timestop

    3 to 1? I dont know what your thinking but this isnt majority rules. Its whatever the author and manga says that goes. I have said time and time again i know those where stated im not denying it, what im saying is along side those adapt to the cold/cold resistance was stated by author in his...
  27. Ragna777

    Akame Ga Kill! Upgrades!

    we can still talk here I'm still relatively new to this whole move thing. I disagree to. Like i said rocker and slac have made sense. Yea different translation but the point is there. Also both of them are right, tatsumi in fact did not overcome the robots lasers. Im suprised nobody caught...
  28. Ragna777

    Akame Ga Kill! Upgrades!

    Yea I mean there are multiple character who have done things similar to what esdeath did, but better and in shorter time and yet they dont scale to it. Also just because she has so and so energy doesnt change from the fact she has to prep in order to dish out that big type of power. On normal...
  29. Ragna777

    Akame Ga Kill! Upgrades!

    Yea rocker and slac have good points to add on Also the supreme robot did far more damage to tatsumi in stage 2 https://*********.com/Manga/Akame-ga-Kill/Chapter-073?id=304565#13 Tatsumi stage 2 and esdeath were on even terms for the most part, if she was as above the robot as this said she...
  30. Ragna777

    Resisting Esdeaths Timestop

    Adapting to the cold and cold resistance was literally stated in the manga which you know was made by the creator.
  31. Ragna777

    Resisting Esdeaths Timestop

    Yea esdeath is stating her knowledge is part of the narrative as a means to explain the situation, its not just there for no reason. She said "tatsumi you...i heard incursio can become strong enough to adapt to the cold, for a moment it was able to move in my frozen space". She was only talking...
  32. Ragna777

    Resisting Esdeaths Timestop

    Sorry for being so behind. It been stressful with everything going on out here. Needed a breather. So what your pretty much saying is that esdeath just let out some meaningless dialogue. That again brings me back to my point of why even bring it up in the first place if it has nothing to do...
  33. Ragna777

    Resisting Esdeaths Timestop

    Yes its knowledge she's using to grasp and explain the situation. Its there for a reason. What you implying is that she just said that to say it. Which would mean its pointless dialogue that didnt need to be there. Which brings me back to my previous statment it would make no sense to bring up...
  34. Ragna777

    Resisting Esdeaths Timestop

    Ive given some clear inputs against the repeated statements. Above I love how its being said "It's funny how you put stock in what Esdeath says during Mahapadma when Incursio attempts to resist it, but not when she herself states that she is freezing Time and Space." The pure irony in this...
  35. Ragna777

    Resisting Esdeaths Timestop

    Sorry about that
  36. Ragna777

    Resisting Esdeaths Timestop

    Honest counters have been made against the fact the a actual time stop, while no good have been made to support. Just constantly saying esdeath said she froze time space and the post script says so, so there. While also twisting other abilites to support the fact that it is and ignore the clear...
  37. Ragna777

    Resisting Esdeaths Timestop

    No it isnt Saying she froze the metaphysical concepts of time and space is far more flimsy. 1. Tatsumi and incursio have no resistance to metaphysical conceptual attacks it a nlf to say he could, when nothing before suggest such. 2. Mine lasers are beams which can be froze 3. Time and space are...
  38. Ragna777

    Resisting Esdeaths Timestop

    Your are taking the froze time and space to literal Esdeath was very much inclined to say my frozen space. What exactly do you think space is, what is spatial lvl? Sapce is distance between objects or area of which things are occurring or objects being held. So when esdeath said my frozen space...
  39. Ragna777

    Resisting Esdeaths Timestop

    Tatsumi didnt adapt to two separate abilities. He resisted the cold effects of the ability when exposed to it. Yea she knew incursio had cold resistance not tatsumi with incursio to have cold resistance. Thats why she was surprised, she was not expecting him to be at the point of power with...
  40. Ragna777

    Resisting Esdeaths Timestop

    1.Saying her ability isnt targeting people it only targeting the concepts of space and time to freeze them. -ok so if she not targeting anyone just the space time continuum concepts themselves then no one should be able move including tatsumi regardless of resistance. Yet despite you all saying...
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